Huntingdon Train Incident - Reports of multiple stabbings

threespires said:
The only information the police or politicians owe us in the immediate aftermath of an incident is anything that alerts us to ongoing/immediate threats so that people can be kept safe.

However the toxic combination of social media, the 24 hr news cycle, malign politicians and bad actors is sending large numbers of people doolally.

We have got to the point where the authorities not only have to frame the information they release to keep people in the vicinity safe but also to minimise the risk of wider public disorder.

It's a pretty disgraceful state of affairs and it's not on the police and it's not on the government. It's definitely on a minority of people who profit from fermenting unease and unrest but it's also on us the public for allowing ourselves to be manipulated in this way.
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An official statement issued by the authorities is all that should be issued to all media, each clamouring to be first with any 'breaking news', stopping rumour and speculation from gaining a foothold.
Just my opinion.
 
bert38 said:
It always strikes me as rather odd that so many people slept through austerity-or blindly accepted it.

We are reaping the consequences of cuts to all of our public services-specifically here health and mental health services-which were decimated under the last Govt.

I dreaded a mental health prisoner being in the cells when I went on duty because trying to find a bed for somebody-often anywhere in the country was nigh on impossible. It was a constant battle with the NHS to find somewhere suitable for them to go-rather than be in a concrete box.

But its all been boiled down to what the colour of the person is.

So much police time is tied up with mental health incidents-people that shouldn't really be in the cells or in the criminal justice system but dealt with elsewhere in a proper functioning modern society.

Its an appalling state of affairs-but I guess the usual soft headed will be painting roundabouts and sticking cheap tacky flags up.
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Whilst agreeing with much of your post, I would rather see a 'cheap and tacky' English flag, than one of high quality of another nation.
 
Grassland Blue said:
Whilst agreeing with much of your post, I would rather see a 'cheap and tacky' English flag, than one of high quality of another nation.
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Depends on the setting and the context surely. I don’t think there’s a movement clamouring to put other nations flags up on our lamp posts, regardless of the quality.

I’d much rather see a decent French flag flying in Normandy near the war graves than I would an English flag bought from the middle aisle in Aldi attached by cable ties to a lamp post on the A46..
 
meltonblue said:
Depends on the setting and the context surely. I don’t think there’s a movement clamouring to put other nations flags up on our lamp posts, regardless of the quality.

I’d much rather see a decent French flag flying in Normandy near the war graves than I would an English flag bought from the middle aisle in Aldi attached by cable ties to a lamp post on the A46..
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Have you missed my point on purpose?
 
East Level 2 said:
The line appears in books by the late, great, Sir Terry Pratchett.
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Might well do, but he is several hundred years late on the I said it first scale

Nobody appears to know who came up with this but interestingly/ironically the internet is full of lies and misinformation about something as small as this as well

Mot surprising it also peddles endless lies about the big issues as well
 
BimboBob said:
He's right though mate but I don't think he goes far enough. We need to add in anyone who styles their beard, people who wear sandals with socks and anyone who suspiciously looks like a ginger.
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I'd vote for that.

It'd clear out the northern quarter for a start.
 
BimboBob said:
He's right though mate but I don't think he goes far enough. We need to add in anyone who styles their beard, people who wear sandals with socks and anyone who suspiciously looks like a ginger.
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Can I add, wears chino shorts with a belt and his t shirt tucked into said shorts, all of course perfectly ironed by his dutiful wife whose just come back from arranging the church flowers.
 
ChicagoBlue said:
So, not skin color, but choice of clothing.

Got it!

Can they stop me while driving if my sweater is offensive, too?
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It’s like a uniform for youths: all-black or grey tracksuits and black balaclavas covering their faces also with their hoods up so the only thing you can see is their eyes. Many have their hands down the front of their kecks because that’s where they hold their knife when it’s not hidden in the little man-bag they all have that is often where drugs and knives are found on them. Half of them have an e-scooter or e-bike n’all.

This uniform is seen right across every inner-city area of the country; white lads as well as black and Asian. Even on Summer afternoons when it’s 32°C out, gloves on for good measure.
 
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bert38 said:
It always strikes me as rather odd that so many people slept through austerity-or blindly accepted it.

We are reaping the consequences of cuts to all of our public services-specifically here health and mental health services-which were decimated under the last Govt.

I dreaded a mental health prisoner being in the cells when I went on duty because trying to find a bed for somebody-often anywhere in the country was nigh on impossible. It was a constant battle with the NHS to find somewhere suitable for them to go-rather than be in a concrete box.

But its all been boiled down to what the colour of the person is.

So much police time is tied up with mental health incidents-people that shouldn't really be in the cells or in the criminal justice system but dealt with elsewhere in a proper functioning modern society.

Its an appalling state of affairs-but I guess the usual soft headed will be painting roundabouts and sticking cheap tacky flags up.
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Not just the impact of cuts, but also the impact of a growing population that the country doesn’t have a growing infrastructure to align with the increase in numbers of people.

Too large a population trying to access underfunded and under-extensive services that can’t cover the need is part of what defines overpopulation, part of what defines a struggling country with poor quality of life, part of what is seen in the Developing World or Third World not a supposed First World country with supposed ‘high quality’ of life.

We are quickly going backwards as a country.
 
.db. said:
Not just the impact of cuts, but also the impact of a growing population that the country doesn’t have a growing infrastructure to align with the increase in numbers of people.

Too large a population trying to access underfunded and under-extensive services that can’t cover the need is part of what defines overpopulation, part of what defines a struggling country with poor quality of life, part of what is seen in the Developing World or Third World not a supposed First World country with supposed ‘high quality’ of life.

We are quickly going backwards as a country.
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We are and you are right-but I don't believe we are 'over populated' -we have simply been underfunded to meet the increasing populaton-it has been a deliberate attempt to move money and resources from those who need it to those with plenty. Stagnant wages, austerity compounded by brexit immigration-and yet there is a significant percentage of people support those who would do the first two with steroids..
 
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