Huw Edwards - 6 month suspended sentence (pg 107)

[bluethrunthru]

Yes. Outraged by people enjoying images of our children.

these people are outraged beyond the Huw Edwards case something I am sure you are aware of

 

[meltonblue]

One of those setting the current Sentencing Guidelines was none other than Kier Starmer QC (as it was then) -Fact

They set the guidelines between the minimum and maximum sentences, not what those sentences are though. That’s not really a fact that detracts on him.

Pretty sure most of the guidelines post date his time as part of that anyway, the general one does.

 

[stan bowles]

I notice how the BBC presenters covering this item on the news (Clive Myrie and Victoria Derbyshire, for two) refer to the BBC as "they" and not "we".
"Are they failing to learn the lessons of the past ?", said Ms Derbyshire, as if she is employed by some other remote news organisation ?

 

[meltonblue]

I notice how the BBC presenters covering this item on the news (Clive Myrie and Victoria Derbyshire, for two) refer to the BBC as "they" and not "we".
"Are they failing to learn the lessons of the past ?", said Ms Derbyshire, as if she is employed by some other remote news organisation ?

The bbc have always done that when reporting on themselves to be fair (and that they do report on themselves is a big differentiator in itself).

 

[stan bowles]

They set the guidelines between the minimum and maximum sentences, not what those sentences are though. That’s not really a fact that detracts on him.

Pretty sure most of the guidelines post date his time as part of that anyway, the general one does.

With sentencing the rioters recently, judgements were regularly passed including the statement that defendants were "to be made an example of", or similar, in justifying the custodial sentences given out.

 

[Ribble73]

Take it from someone who deals with this all the time, and puts all the work in to prove what they did. That sentence was standard. Not good I know, but not a favourable outcome like many would want to claim.

They set the guidelines between the minimum and maximum sentences, not what those sentences are though. That’s not really a fact that detracts on him.

Pretty sure most of the guidelines post date his time as part of that anyway, the general one does.

He was part of the 2020 sentencing guideline council that set the guidelines for what goes on today

 

[meltonblue]

With sentencing the rioters recently, judgements were regularly passed including the statement that defendants were "to be made an example of", or similar, in justifying the custodial sentences given out.

Indeed but they were still consistent with the guidelines, not that that has that got much to do with the point you were responding to there, which was around how the sentencing council come up with the guidelines vs who comes up with minimum and maximum sentences.

 

[stan bowles]

The bbc have always done that when reporting on themselves to be fair (and that they do report on themselves is a big differentiator in itself).

They can try and distance themselves using whatever language they choose but the facts remain that the BBC has employed a long list of serial abusers, sexual predators and paedophiles. The Government should be asking a lot more questions of the organisation.

 

[meltonblue]

He was part of the 2020 sentencing guideline council that set the guidelines for what goes on today

Well that’s clearly wrong as he was an MP well before then.

 

[stan bowles]

Indeed but they were still consistent with the guidelines, not that that has that got much to do with the point you were responding to there, which was around how the sentencing council come up with the guidelines vs who comes up with minimum and maximum sentences.

If it was consistent with the guidelines then there would be no need to use phrases such as "you need to be made an example of" as this smacks of a reactionary and emotive judgement, almost influenced politically to determine the sentence.