I bet Nu Liebour do jack s**t about this...

[buzzer1]

What seems always to be missed in these discussions is a little history.

The Ottoman empire was a barbaric slaughter house that attempted to conquer the world. Do we want to allow the re-establishment of the Caliphate?

The Ottermans were indeed all of the above but the Feckin irony is breathtaking. The said Ottermans were driven out with the promise of a homeland for the very people that were recruited to help drive them out ie the Arabs, isnt it funny/sad that the said people were used in the biggest stab in the back in modern history and now number in there millions homeless and treated like rats while the western world turns a blind eye.

Just one more thing regarding the above post, for this see Israel now, with the Zionists hiding behing The flag of Israel when indeed half of 'em are no more Jewish than me.

Sorry, just one very last thing, the real terrorists and filthy virmin are in charge of running the world/country(s), why are we stood by and watching as these maggotts get away with evrything, in some cases murder, why?

 

[Manci7y]

The Pakistan government sorted out their own backyards, AFGHAN were never going to be able to do that without a helping hand.

You know that a major part of the Afghan resistance forces are based in Pakistan, and striker across the border? Why aren't the Pakistani's sorting their backyard out now?

Have you seen the mountains there? Its hardly a flatland border. The Pakistani soldiers are still working hard stopping and searching as many as they can.

 

[pee dubya]

You know that a major part of the Afghan resistance forces are based in Pakistan, and striker across the border? Why aren't the Pakistani's sorting their backyard out now?

What gets me in all this is the fact that it is muslims killing other muslims on a daily basis yet that is the fault of the infidel?

Can someone please try and explain the twisted logic behind this?

I can't, it's very complicated, but you get extremist muslims who view Pakistan as an ally of the west, and take retribution, you get Shiite vs Sunni, and all sorts of bollocks, it's pretty fucked up.

 

[unsworthblue]

people keep harping on about freedom of speech,blah blah fucking blah.anyone fancy coming to Pakistan,Jordan,Syria etc and parading through the streets with imflatory signs and banners.Come on it'll be a right laugh.Whats up with you? Scared you will get your fucking head chopped off.Shithouse's!

You'd prefer this?

So, we shouldn't allow freedom of expression here, because some other countries don't allow it?

Hey, it's fine to fuck 12 year olds in Mexico, let's all do that here too!

Hopefully, you can see how silly of an argument you make.

firstly,no i don't think fucking 12 year old girls is ok,but when i was 12 i thought it was all the rage.secondly,i think freedom of speech is great,and i am all for it.not that we get much chance,but alot more than other countries do get,especially muslim counries i,e Pakistan,Saudi Arabia,iran,Syria,Somalia etc.I just don't think its the greatest idea ever to parade muslim extremists through a town like this.Next we'll have the Bnp parading through Karachi.I just think it is highly provocative.sorry if you think its a silly argument mate

 

[blueinsa]

What gets me in all this is the fact that it is muslims killing other muslims on a daily basis yet that is the fault of the infidel?

Can someone please try and explain the twisted logic behind this?

I can't, it's very complicated, but you get extremist muslims who view Pakistan as an ally of the west, and take retribution, you get Shiite vs Sunni, and all sorts of bollocks, it's pretty fucked up.

I agree, my point is that this point is missed, especially by those that defend these people by stating that they are acting against us because of our killing of muslims.

Look, i'd pull our boys out tomorrow, a pointless war imo and completely unwinable, however the misconception that we go around killing hundreds of muslims everyday is just bollox, the fact is they kill each other and many would do well to remember that.

 

[Damocles]

Yeah, lets put a stop to peaceful anti-war marches. Let's become as undemocratic as some of the countries we are fighting.

Fact is the march will be marshalled by police who will arrest any trouble-makers. We have laws governing 'glorification of terrorism' and 'inciting racial hatred' and I trust anyone breaking these laws will be arrested too.

Let them march. As long as they stay within the boundaries of law then they have every right to march. If they break the law then they should be stopped by the police and dealt with in the courts.

Not a surprise to see the Daily Mail trying to whip up a frenzy about it.

Anti-war march my fucking arse.

The clue about these guys is in their name....

ISLAM4UK. They only have one agenda, that is to make the UK an islamic state.

They will parade their fucking sick banners proclaiming the deaths of British soldiers and the glorification of suicide bombers and guess what?

They will get away with it because the hand wringing, liberal classes of this country insist that under no cirumstances are you to say anything bad about them because that means your a racist???

They are a fucking terrorist supporting group who should be thrown in fucking jail or deported to a sharia law state that they can all feel at home in!

I disagree with their aim to make Britain a state of Sharia Law, and let's not try and glaze over stuff here, that is their aim.

However, they wish to march to commemorate the Muslims who have died as a result as the wars in the Middle East, and have a democratic right to do so. The Muslims that have died in the war, also had families, also had kids and also had lives. It is just as sad and pointless to lose their lives, just as it is to lose British lives.

It wasn't that long ago, that Poll Tax protesters were seen as a subversive element of society, or even longer ago, the people who demanded representation in Parliament.

People speak of having our soldiers going over to foreign lands to protect our rights, and our way of live, and then scream that this march cannot take place. You lot are fucking cowards, plain and simple. You want the rights to be available, but only when it suits you. You aren't brave enough to endure the rough with the smooth, and at the first sign of trouble, you want to snap away our most fundamental rights of freedom of expression, that generations of people have died to protect, just so you can feel that little bit safer when you go to sleep.

EDIT - Sorry, I wasn't addressing anybody in particular.

 

[blueinsa]

Anti-war march my fucking arse.

The clue about these guys is in their name....

ISLAM4UK. They only have one agenda, that is to make the UK an islamic state.

They will parade their fucking sick banners proclaiming the deaths of British soldiers and the glorification of suicide bombers and guess what?

They will get away with it because the hand wringing, liberal classes of this country insist that under no cirumstances are you to say anything bad about them because that means your a racist???

They are a fucking terrorist supporting group who should be thrown in fucking jail or deported to a sharia law state that they can all feel at home in!

I disagree with their aim to make Britain a state of Sharia Law, and let's not try and glaze over stuff here, that is their aim.

However, they wish to march to commemorate the Muslims who have died as a result as the wars in the Middle East, and have a democratic right to do so. The Muslims that have died in the war, also had families, also had kids and also had lives. It is just as sad and pointless to lose their lives, just as it is to lose British lives.

It wasn't that long ago, that Poll Tax protesters were seen as a subversive element of society, or even longer ago, the people who demanded representation in Parliament.

People speak of having our soldiers going over to foreign lands to protect our rights, and our way of live, and then scream that this march cannot take place. You lot are fucking cowards, plain and simple. You want the rights to be available, but only when it suits you. You aren't brave enough to endure the rough with the smooth, and at the first sign of trouble, you want to snap away our most fundamental rights of freedom of expression, that generations of people have died to protect, just so you can feel that little bit safer when you go to sleep.

Why dont they march around muslim states to remember the muslims blown up almost daily by other muslims?

I will tell you why, it doesnt suit their aims, those of killing all infidels and making the Uk a muslim state.

Nothing but a bunch of fucking terrorist supporting wankers who havn't got the balls to admit the real reason they want to march through the very town that our vrave lads come home through in body bags.

 

[buzzer1]

You know that a major part of the Afghan resistance forces are based in Pakistan, and striker across the border? Why aren't the Pakistani's sorting their backyard out now?

Have you seen the mountains there? Its hardly a flatland border. The Pakistani soldiers are still working hard stopping and searching as many as they can.

Surely you guys can see that its a big fukcin cartoon? we give the likes of Pakistan funding to root out so called Terrorists, when indeed they use the money to fund the so called terrorists via such groups as the ISI,who in turn push the Orwellian nightmare upon us via big bad terror man when the money came from us in the first feckin place, you couldnt make it up but its so simple, its what makes the world go around and until it's cut off at source then you will forever be at the mercy of the Dark Suits.

 

[buzzer1]

You know that a major part of the Afghan resistance forces are based in Pakistan, and striker across the border? Why aren't the Pakistani's sorting their backyard out now?

Have you seen the mountains there? Its hardly a flatland border. The Pakistani soldiers are still working hard stopping and searching as many as they can.

Surely you guys can see that its a big fukcin cartoon? we give the likes of Pakistan funding to root out so called Terrorists, when indeed they use the money to fund the so called terrorists via such groups as the ISI,who in turn push the Orwellian nightmare upon us via big bad terror man when the money came from us in the first feckin place, you couldnt make it up but its so simple, its what makes the world go around and until it's cut off at source then you will forever be at the mercy of the Dark Suits.

Soz for the double post.

 

[Damocles]

I disagree with their aim to make Britain a state of Sharia Law, and let's not try and glaze over stuff here, that is their aim.

However, they wish to march to commemorate the Muslims who have died as a result as the wars in the Middle East, and have a democratic right to do so. The Muslims that have died in the war, also had families, also had kids and also had lives. It is just as sad and pointless to lose their lives, just as it is to lose British lives.

It wasn't that long ago, that Poll Tax protesters were seen as a subversive element of society, or even longer ago, the people who demanded representation in Parliament.

People speak of having our soldiers going over to foreign lands to protect our rights, and our way of live, and then scream that this march cannot take place. You lot are fucking cowards, plain and simple. You want the rights to be available, but only when it suits you. You aren't brave enough to endure the rough with the smooth, and at the first sign of trouble, you want to snap away our most fundamental rights of freedom of expression, that generations of people have died to protect, just so you can feel that little bit safer when you go to sleep.

Why dont they march around muslim states to remember the muslims blown up almost daily by other muslims?

I will tell you why, it doesnt suit their aims, those of killing all infidels and making the Uk a muslim state.

Nothing but a bunch of fucking terrorist supporting wankers who havn't got the balls to admit the real reason they want to march through the very town that our vrave lads come home through in body bags.

Ummm....because they live here?

Are you suggesting that people are actually flying in to march through these streets?

Or is it the fact that they *might* just live in this country and think it more convenient to march where they live?