Ice Hockey | Player arrested for manslaughter following death of Adam Johnson (P18)

[Mr Kobayashi]

From what I’ve read, Johnson’s head was about 4 feet off the ground, which, unless he was a hobbit, wouldn’t be where he expected his head to be.

I get it, you’re totally convinced that he's bang to rights.

Time will tell if you are right.

So you haven't seen the clip. His head was at normal height for the sport. And aligned to other players making attacking moves.

Not sure there's much point of you entering a debate tbh.

 

[Coatigan]

From what I’ve read, Johnson’s head was about 4 feet off the ground, which, unless he was a hobbit, wouldn’t be where he expected his head to be.

I get it, you’re totally convinced that he's bang to rights.

Time will tell if you are right.

I disagree on that one.

The law will decide, and whatever it does will be within the law.

But I don't think we will ever really know that side of it.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

So you haven't seen the clip. His head was at normal height for the sport. And aligned to other players making attacking moves.

Not sure there's much point of you entering a debate tbh.

lol awesome debating with you.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

I disagree on that one.

The law will decide, and whatever it does will be within the law.

But I don't think we will ever really know that side of it.

That’s true, but I think our usual suspect thinks he’s written the laws and knows exactly what and what doesn’t apply.

 

[SWP's back]

That’s true, but I think our usual suspect thinks he’s written the laws and knows exactly what and what doesn’t apply.

Have you seen this video?

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Have you seen this video?

Up until the point of contact, yes.

 

[SWP's back]

Up until the point of contact, yes.

And genuinely don’t see malice in the contact that was made?

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

And genuinely don’t see malice in the contact that was made?

My guess is that he’s gone to block him with his leg and it’s gone wrong. Now whether that is malicious or not, I don’t know.

I’m not claiming to be an authority on Ice Hockey. I have skated to a reasonable standard, but never when being barged about.

My leaning is that it’s an accident that was caused either by an off-balance opponent or one that’s tried to block him that’s gone wrong.

If it’s the latter, then he’ll probably be charged with IM and it will be up to the prosecution to prove it.

I don’t think it’s binary though. It’s not 100% either way. To me.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

My guess is that he’s gone to block him with his leg and it’s gone wrong. Now whether that is malicious or not, I don’t know.

I’m not claiming to be an authority on Ice Hockey. I have skated to a reasonable standard, but never when being barged about.

My leaning is that it’s an accident that was caused either by an off-balance opponent or one that’s tried to block him that’s gone wrong.

If it’s the latter, then he’ll probably be charged with IM and it will be up to the prosecution to prove it.

I don’t think it’s binary though. It’s not 100% either way. To me.

Wouldn't you pull your leg down rather than up if you wanted to block someone?

Rather than stick out a blade that created more danger.

 

[grunge]

My guess is that he’s gone to block him with his leg and it’s gone wrong. Now whether that is malicious or not, I don’t know.

I’m not claiming to be an authority on Ice Hockey. I have skated to a reasonable standard, but never when being barged about.

My leaning is that it’s an accident that was caused either by an off-balance opponent or one that’s tried to block him that’s gone wrong.

If it’s the latter, then he’ll probably be charged with IM and it will be up to the prosecution to prove it.

I don’t think it’s binary though. It’s not 100% either way. To me.

The very act of trying to block a player with a leg is a foul. USA rule books class a leg check as a reckless endangerment and immediate sending off from the match.

Case 5 in this list.

Casebook

www.usahockeyrulebook.com

So even if he had done this, its malicious in terms of Hockey rules. Im not suggesting he tried to hurt the guy. but the manouver, if it is what( im still not convinved with the bad video quality ) would have ( should have ) been a major penalty and sending off.