If we win FA cup would you keep Mancini?

[omcfc]

Yes, otherwise what message are you sending? If you don't win the league, despite opposition from Chelsea, Rags, Arsenal, Dippers, Spuds then you are out? That's no kind of world I want to live in. In all seriousness, of course the owners expect success with what they have invested, but they have had a good deal already. PL last season, Charity shield, FA Cup in 2011. It's not like Mancini hasn't delivered anything. The truth is, you aren't going to win everything all the time. And who wants to live in a world where you do? Wouldn't be very exciting. It's the struggle which makes the success sweet. If it's easy, it's just hollow.

 

[bobmcfc]

Yes, otherwise what message are you sending? If you don't win the league, despite opposition from Chelsea, Rags, Arsenal, Dippers, Spuds then you are out? That's no kind of world I want to live in. In all seriousness, of course the owners expect success with what they have invested, but they have had a good deal already. PL last season, Charity shield, FA Cup in 2011. It's not like Mancini hasn't delivered anything. The truth is, you aren't going to win everything all the time. And who wants to live in a world where you do? Wouldn't be very exciting. It's the struggle which makes the success sweet. If it's easy, it's just hollow.

I like how you put it. Doing things properly and building a dynasty istead of shorterm gratification.

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

Did you miss this thread love?

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Sorry but I have a feeling that this(this) is a focused thread.

Jeez, we don't want 'focused' threads! We'll be asked to join 'focus' groups next. Nothing better than good solid knee jerk!

 

[adrianr]

Very tough one, but for me I'd have to err on the side of no. If you'd asked me before Christmas I'd have said a resounding no way, but to see us once again slip out of the title race (the fact that we're second misses the point completely) and put it so far into our opponents grasp for the second season on the bounce says to me that we're not fulfilling our potential. I liken it to a car hitting the rev limiter. We have more in us, but we keep bouncing off this artificial limit and dropping back, firing forwards and dropping back.

Last season we dropped back what most thought was an insurmountable distance, but our last fire forward just saw us over the line in first. This season only the most die hard optimist would see us retaining the title. But again, retaining the title isn't in itself the be all and end all, it's being in genuine contention for it until the very end. A team challenging for the title should never be consistently more than 5/6 points off the leaders at the most IMO, beyond that you're just relying on too much out of your control to pull it back.

Something that is fairly out of our control though is the replacement. Would you get rid of Mancini for a Moyes or Laudrup? IMO no. Klopp or Mourinho, Ancelotti even? Yes.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

Yes, otherwise what message are you sending? If you don't win the league, despite opposition from Chelsea, Rags, Arsenal, Dippers, Spuds then you are out? That's no kind of world I want to live in. In all seriousness, of course the owners expect success with what they have invested, but they have had a good deal already. PL last season, Charity shield, FA Cup in 2011. It's not like Mancini hasn't delivered anything. The truth is, you aren't going to win everything all the time. And who wants to live in a world where you do? Wouldn't be very exciting. It's the struggle which makes the success sweet. If it's easy, it's just hollow.

I like how you put it. Doing things properly and building a dynasty istead of shorterm gratification.

If Mancini is sacked, you can rest assured that it won't be a 'short termist' decision. It will be a strategic decision based on the clubs confidence in him to take the club to the next level. All factors will be taken into consideration.

 

[Clevers]

I would eventually get rid of Mancini , if Mourinho was completely unavailable to take over then or in the future. I would not get rid of him based on this season, in fact his record so far says keep him.

I accept that unlike all previous title winning managers he has not gone on to win all 38 league matches the following season.

 

[greasedupdeafguy]

It shouldn't make a difference if we win the cup if better alternatives are available we should go after them.

 

[I'm no cynic but...]

Is it really necessary to sack a winner? It would be sheer folly to do so. Every manager would want his own staff and his own players, and the constant chopping and changing would put the club back at least two seasons, two seasons where we would be out of the running for trophies. Is that what we want? Is it what the owners want? Only our enemies would want it. Just leave Roberto to get on with it, and let's hope the Board back him this Summer.

 

[NipHolmes]

We are second in the league, we may not win a thing this year but we have to realise that throwing our toys out of the pram when we don't get our own way isn't the answer. I want Mancini to be here for a long time

And when slurgie goes...IMO we will have the best manager in the prem .

Wenger is better, can't see how you'd say otherwise. Mancini has never done well in Europe let alone got to the final.

So many harp on about yesterday like Mancini proved something, no, our team beat a poor championship team that lost their best player in Bechio.

Southampton was must win and we lost. Yesterday was great don't get me wrong but its to be expected.

To say Mancini should keep his job on the back of a win against Leeds is nothing short of stupidity and naivety. Our board will be looking a few seasons down the line and base judgement on that, if they were swayed by yesterday then they'd be clueless.

Fact is we were poor in Europe, poor in CC and conceded league in mid Feb, winning this cup merely offers a ray of light during a bleak season where we have underperformed.

Not trying to be a twat but I really do despair when people hound doubters yet only see as far as their nose when looking to plan for the future. Leeds let us play well because they didn't press, they are no fucking Dortmund. Yet all is well because we beat them. That great if we want to win the championship rather than the Champions league.

Anyway, glass half full, Fa Cup is a great way to redeem ourselves for our poor campaign and means we can finish on a high. Mancinis future will 100% be decided before that game Taos place so the win will be irrelevant in regards to his tenure.

 

[bobmcfc]

Yes, otherwise what message are you sending? If you don't win the league, despite opposition from Chelsea, Rags, Arsenal, Dippers, Spuds then you are out? That's no kind of world I want to live in. In all seriousness, of course the owners expect success with what they have invested, but they have had a good deal already. PL last season, Charity shield, FA Cup in 2011. It's not like Mancini hasn't delivered anything. The truth is, you aren't going to win everything all the time. And who wants to live in a world where you do? Wouldn't be very exciting. It's the struggle which makes the success sweet. If it's easy, it's just hollow.

I like how you put it. Doing things properly and building a dynasty istead of shorterm gratification.

If Mancini is sacked, you can rest assured that it won't be a 'short termist' decision. It will be a strategic decision based on the clubs confidence in him to take the club to the next level. All factors will be taken into consideration.

You can't guarantee how long a guy like mourninho would want to stick around, especially if the wheels started coming off.