Ilkay Gundogan

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Goodlove said:
I love this forum. We were buzzing yesterday but today his legs have gone and it’s the wrong thing to do. Genuinely think we could talk ourselves out of a Pep extension if it ever gets announced.
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I've come to accept that there are certain people on here who can't differentiate between thinking we're making the wrong decision and worrying that we are.

There's never a good reason. Just "oooh, I don't know about this."
 
Akira said:
I will be happy to see Gundo back. Watched some Barca's games and Germany, despite his age, he is still very good. Read reports he personally contacted Pep for a return, so he still has the desire to continue winning trophies.

Key thing for me is how often is he expecting to play and how often are we going to play him.

I do wonder if any of our midfielders will suffer in game time because of it, namely Nunes or McAtee.
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More games this year and we're gonna inevitably pick up injuries which he can cover. Modric 39 next month and still contributing.
Makes sense with him phased into coaching
 
Stoned Rose said:
Posters going on about him being “tired”.

Carrying on like his fitness regime consists of 3 sit ups, a family bag of Quavers, 18 pints with a load of old Irish fellas and sleeping on some couch in Gorton.

He’s an experienced, intelligent professional who knows how to manage himself. As are Pep and the rest of the staff who look after the players’ health.

Man won’t be getting “tired”
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Well said.

34 in October. 34 in 2024 is not what 34 was in 2014. He'll be more than fine.
 
Fordyboy46 said:
Heard of Bockwurst and Bratwurst, but wtf is Weisswurst?
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You need to taste it :)
With pretzel, sweet mustard and wheat beer.

Weißwurst [ˈvaɪsvʊɐ̯st], literally 'white sausage'; Bavarian: Weißwuascht) is a traditional Bavarian sausage made from minced veal and pork back bacon. It is usually flavored with parsley, lemon, mace, onions, ginger and cardamom, although there are some variations.
 

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Man_City_Loyal said:
34 in football is too old and washed up (apparently)

34 in normal life, a keen athletics enthusiast is deemed a young man.

Crazy how we can have different views over what someone does isn't it.
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I think their point is that it's best to bring him in on a short-term contract, as players can decline sharply in mid-thirties and - while he's still brilliant and full of energy now - that might not be the case post World Cup.

I don't think anyone thinks he won't be a top player for the next two years at least. I certainly think he has a lot to contribute for the next two years at least. It's just after that when you get to 36 and over it's really getting very old in footballer terms (yes even in this era).
 
fitzy blue said:
Just watched the arsenal fan lee gunner on his YouTube channel.
Going on about Gundogen possibly coming back to us, which he says makes us a certainty to win the league again.
Also said how much he rates our club and our fan base, makes a pleasant surprise reading that from an arsenal fan.
Thinking he may have banged his head or something.
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Not all opp fans are a bunch of clueless melons
 
fitzy blue said:
Just watched the arsenal fan lee gunner on his YouTube channel.
Going on about Gundogen possibly coming back to us, which he says makes us a certainty to win the league again.
Also said how much he rates our club and our fan base, makes a pleasant surprise reading that from an arsenal fan.
Thinking he may have banged his head or something.
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sometime i watch his City related video and he respects us and has not said anything bad

He dislikes Doku a bit tho.

He is slagging Arsenal, Arteta, board, signings 24/7 practically
 
franksinatra said:
But that also highlights why getting Gundogan back is such a great deal.

There are not the players on the market.

When City found a player suitable for the role they were prepared to pay upwards of 90 million for Declan Rice, it is not for a lack of trying. They have also shown interest in Guimares for top money but Newcastle don’t really want to sell.

Liverpool started with Gravenbach and Macallister at weekend. For a couple of years they have tried to sign a holding midfielder, Caicedo, Lavia, Zubimendi and they are in a worse position than ourselves as we have the best holding midfielder in the world.

Players like Caicedo, Lavia, Fernandez, Tchouamanei have gone for an average of about 90 million pounds.

And we’re in a position where we can get a player in on a free, who plays a multitude of roles and people are pulling their faces. It’s the best possible deal imaginable.
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Not sure that's the case with Guimaraes - we didn't value him at his release clause and didn't attempt to make a bid in June when Newcastle were in need of meeting PSR requirements. It's more about matching valuations than them not wanting to sell (at the time).

I'm not pulling my face - like I said, it's disappointing that we haven't moved to secure the future and instead are signing a 33 year old player back who we didn't want to offer a 2 year deal to. Without any disrespect to Gundo, he'd still do a great job and matches our current desire to not spend big on the role.
 
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