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ban-mcfc said:
KOMPANY'S TACKLE WASN'T A RED BY LAW YOU RAG NITWIT.

at the time 2 footed tackles weren't reds in the rule book, it was all about having control over your tackle (WHICH KOMPANY FUCKING DID). since then we've seen countless tackles with two feet and people have been saying "why was kompany sent off for less than that!?" so the FArce have now said all 2 footed tackles are reds.

and for all you thinking it's just city fans moaning, my coventry fan mate text me straight after the penalty decision, the text just read..."FUCKING JOKE!! SURELY NOT ANOTHER ONE??".

They have no clue about that mate. Literally they are so delusional about all of this that its scary! Instead they try to make it into a persecution thing and belittle it as 'ABU'.

I watched the game last night whilst playing poker with two Everton fans, a Liverpool fan, and a Spurs fan.

Spurs fan said after 'Well, it was at the Pedro Mendes end so it was never going to be given. It's never going to change. They'll always be looked after'.

Meanwhile the Everton fans were going ape-shit - genuinely angry at the game they love being polluted once again by such bias towards the establishment club.

No point trying to argue the case with rags. They think this is how it's always been. They think it's the norm.
 
ban-mcfc said:
KOMPANY'S TACKLE WASN'T A RED BY LAW YOU RAG NITWIT.

at the time 2 footed tackles weren't reds in the rule book, it was all about having control over your tackle (WHICH KOMPANY FUCKING DID). since then we've seen countless tackles with two feet and people have been saying "why was kompany sent off for less than that!?" so the FArce have now said all 2 footed tackles are reds.

and for all you thinking it's just city fans moaning, my coventry fan mate text me straight after the penalty decision, the text just read..."FUCKING JOKE!! SURELY NOT ANOTHER ONE??".

at this current time 2 footed tackles are still not in the law book

tackles of this nature however are clearly banned, and have been banned for some time. the tackle used unecessary force and was committed in a lunging motion with two feet off the floor ie uncontrolled. reds for 2 footed tackles have been given for several seasons so you have to question why he chose to go in 2 footed in the first place

all refs (yes i am one so i know) are told that these tackles should always result in a red card and if someone tackled like in a staurday/sunday league game i was reffing, i'd be torn apart by an assessor for not sending him off
 
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Why United don't get preferential treatment, despite penalty let-off against Fulham

Roberto Mancini and everyone associated with Manchester City will no doubt be seething over referee Michael Oliver's failure to award Fulham an 89th minute penalty at Old Trafford on Monday.

TV replays confirmed Oliver's decision to be erroneous - Michael Carrick had clipped the left heel of Danny Murphy, sending him sprawling to the ground, a penalty the only course of action.

But Oliver thought otherwise, waved play on and United held out to secure a nervy 1-0 win to establish a three-point lead over City in the title race with eight games to go.

Even Sir Alex Ferguson, the master of the smokescreen or obfuscation of the truth, could not dress the situation up as anything but a major let-off for United, acknowledging the legitimacy of Fulham's claim.

But was the decision compelling evidence of long perceived leniencey towards United from referees? Conspiracy theorists will suggest as much, citing the fear Ferguson strikes into officials as reason for Oliver's contentious decision.

Fulham boss Martin Jol certainly thought so, suggesting, in loose terms, that Oliver had bottled it, that the 27-year-old official had lacked the courage to make such a big call against United at Old Trafford.

Whataver the reason for Oliver's decision, the suggestion that United are dealt more favours by officials than other Premier League clubs is one that simply doesn't stand up to scrutiny.

Statistics provided by Opta confirmed only West Brom, with four, have conceded more penalties at home this season than United, who have given away three, blowing out of the water the argument about preferential treatment.

United fans will also point to November 26, when Rio Ferdinand made a legitimate challenge on Hatem Ben Arfa to win the ball, only for ref Mike Jones to award a penalty.

Demba Ba scored from the spot and Newcastle secured a 1-1 draw, leaving Sir Alex Ferguson to describe Jones's decision as a "travesty".

Every team suffers from miscarriages of justice when it comes to refereeing decisions. Equally, every team benefits from fortune when a decision that should go against them ends up going in their favour.

The very nature of having referees officiating games, rather than relying on video evidence, means there will always be an element of human error involved in the making of decisions.

United enjoyed good fortune with the penalty decision against Fulham. Yet City have also benefited from wrong decisions, notably on Saturday when Gareth Barry poleaxed Stoke's Glenn Whelan yet somehow managed to avoid a caution and conceding a penalty.

Yet there is no merit in delving into an analysis of every contentious decision, for those with allegiances will always argue their particular team has it worse than others, when the reality is that every team has its fair share of dodgy decisions over the course of a season.

If United go on to claim a 20th title, it will not be because Oliver failed to award Fulham a penalty and so denied them the chance to claim a point at Old Trafford.

It will be because City have fallen within sight of the finish line and lacked the nerve to see out the title race while United, as they have done with relentless consistency down the years, know how to get the job done. It's that simple.
 
eshiers1 said:
clarkie_ni said:
eshiers1 said:
add to your list sunderland one - 5 yards offside, nothing like a bit of exaggeration to make your point!

your stat about wolves possession is completely meaningless without you reviewing every foul to see if it was correct, possission=/= fouls

kompanys tackle was a red by todays laws, every ref would have given itbalo's goal at wba was offside, aguero clearly active in the build up

barry v liverpool was a clear second yellow



if this is the case then .....
please explian why glenn johnson got absolutely no sanction from the ref or FA for his tackle in the FA cup game????????

johnsons was also a red, mason clearly saw the incident (so no chance of fa review) as he gave us a throw in, he just got the 2 footed part completely wrong on that occaision, unlucky i guess

In which case why didn't they intervene retrospectively as they did with Mario?

Bias much?
 
Some of the things posted on this forum genuinely amaze me.

You're all convinced that there's bias - it's embarrassing. You post up examples to suit your own viewpoint, blissfully unaware (perhaps?) that there are many other incidents that, going by your logic, disprove your point?

Case in point:

Apparently United's poor showing in Europe proves the bias.

So when we won the Champions League, what happened?
 
Red_fan said:
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Why United don't get preferential treatment, despite penalty let-off against Fulham

Roberto Mancini and everyone associated with Manchester City will no doubt be seething over referee Michael Oliver's failure to award Fulham an 89th minute penalty at Old Trafford on Monday.

TV replays confirmed Oliver's decision to be erroneous - Michael Carrick had clipped the left heel of Danny Murphy, sending him sprawling to the ground, a penalty the only course of action.

But Oliver thought otherwise, waved play on and United held out to secure a nervy 1-0 win to establish a three-point lead over City in the title race with eight games to go.

Even Sir Alex Ferguson, the master of the smokescreen or obfuscation of the truth, could not dress the situation up as anything but a major let-off for United, acknowledging the legitimacy of Fulham's claim.

But was the decision compelling evidence of long perceived leniencey towards United from referees? Conspiracy theorists will suggest as much, citing the fear Ferguson strikes into officials as reason for Oliver's contentious decision.

Fulham boss Martin Jol certainly thought so, suggesting, in loose terms, that Oliver had bottled it, that the 27-year-old official had lacked the courage to make such a big call against United at Old Trafford.

Whataver the reason for Oliver's decision, the suggestion that United are dealt more favours by officials than other Premier League clubs is one that simply doesn't stand up to scrutiny.

Statistics provided by Opta confirmed only West Brom, with four, have conceded more penalties at home this season than United, who have given away three, blowing out of the water the argument about preferential treatment.

United fans will also point to November 26, when Rio Ferdinand made a legitimate challenge on Hatem Ben Arfa to win the ball, only for ref Mike Jones to award a penalty.

Demba Ba scored from the spot and Newcastle secured a 1-1 draw, leaving Sir Alex Ferguson to describe Jones's decision as a "travesty".

Every team suffers from miscarriages of justice when it comes to refereeing decisions. Equally, every team benefits from fortune when a decision that should go against them ends up going in their favour.

The very nature of having referees officiating games, rather than relying on video evidence, means there will always be an element of human error involved in the making of decisions.

United enjoyed good fortune with the penalty decision against Fulham. Yet City have also benefited from wrong decisions, notably on Saturday when Gareth Barry poleaxed Stoke's Glenn Whelan yet somehow managed to avoid a caution and conceding a penalty.

Yet there is no merit in delving into an analysis of every contentious decision, for those with allegiances will always argue their particular team has it worse than others, when the reality is that every team has its fair share of dodgy decisions over the course of a season.

If United go on to claim a 20th title, it will not be because Oliver failed to award Fulham a penalty and so denied them the chance to claim a point at Old Trafford.

It will be because City have fallen within sight of the finish line and lacked the nerve to see out the title race while United, as they have done with relentless consistency down the years, know how to get the job done. It's that simple.

ALL football fans know that the rags get far far more than their fair share of favourable decisions not just those with Sky Blue tinted specs

It's a standing joke in the game. Institutionalised bias and favouritism effectively.
 
Red_fan said:
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Why United don't get preferential treatment, despite penalty let-off against Fulham

Roberto Mancini and everyone associated with Manchester City will no doubt be seething over referee Michael Oliver's failure to award Fulham an 89th minute penalty at Old Trafford on Monday.

TV replays confirmed Oliver's decision to be erroneous - Michael Carrick had clipped the left heel of Danny Murphy, sending him sprawling to the ground, a penalty the only course of action.

But Oliver thought otherwise, waved play on and United held out to secure a nervy 1-0 win to establish a three-point lead over City in the title race with eight games to go.

Even Sir Alex Ferguson, the master of the smokescreen or obfuscation of the truth, could not dress the situation up as anything but a major let-off for United, acknowledging the legitimacy of Fulham's claim.

But was the decision compelling evidence of long perceived leniencey towards United from referees? Conspiracy theorists will suggest as much, citing the fear Ferguson strikes into officials as reason for Oliver's contentious decision.

Fulham boss Martin Jol certainly thought so, suggesting, in loose terms, that Oliver had bottled it, that the 27-year-old official had lacked the courage to make such a big call against United at Old Trafford.

Whataver the reason for Oliver's decision, the suggestion that United are dealt more favours by officials than other Premier League clubs is one that simply doesn't stand up to scrutiny.

Statistics provided by Opta confirmed only West Brom, with four, have conceded more penalties at home this season than United, who have given away three, blowing out of the water the argument about preferential treatment.

United fans will also point to November 26, when Rio Ferdinand made a legitimate challenge on Hatem Ben Arfa to win the ball, only for ref Mike Jones to award a penalty.

Demba Ba scored from the spot and Newcastle secured a 1-1 draw, leaving Sir Alex Ferguson to describe Jones's decision as a "travesty".

Every team suffers from miscarriages of justice when it comes to refereeing decisions. Equally, every team benefits from fortune when a decision that should go against them ends up going in their favour.

The very nature of having referees officiating games, rather than relying on video evidence, means there will always be an element of human error involved in the making of decisions.

United enjoyed good fortune with the penalty decision against Fulham. Yet City have also benefited from wrong decisions, notably on Saturday when Gareth Barry poleaxed Stoke's Glenn Whelan yet somehow managed to avoid a caution and conceding a penalty.

Yet there is no merit in delving into an analysis of every contentious decision, for those with allegiances will always argue their particular team has it worse than others, when the reality is that every team has its fair share of dodgy decisions over the course of a season.

If United go on to claim a 20th title, it will not be because Oliver failed to award Fulham a penalty and so denied them the chance to claim a point at Old Trafford.

It will be because City have fallen within sight of the finish line and lacked the nerve to see out the title race while United, as they have done with relentless consistency down the years, know how to get the job done. It's that simple.


What a surprise McDonnell wrote this piece of shit. He is the worst of the fucking lot.

Perhaps his agenda would not have been served by stating opposition teams have had nine penalties in ten fucking years at the swamp.

Wankstain.
 
Balti - funny how it's always the successful side that gets the accusation thrown at them... a la Liverpool not so long ago.

Try addressing the points raised in the article you quote, rather than just writing a meaningless sentence saying 'everyone knows'.
 
warren_richards04 said:
Some of the things posted on this forum genuinely amaze me.

You're all convinced that there's bias - it's embarrassing. You post up examples to suit your own viewpoint, blissfully unaware (perhaps?) that there are many other incidents that, going by your logic, disprove your point?

Case in point:

Apparently United's poor showing in Europe proves the bias.

So when we won the Champions League, what happened?

Sky executives gave each other delirious high-fives, newspaper editors punched their desks with uncontained joy whilst Clive Tyldesley shot his insipid pixie spunk into his pleated chinos.
 
Re: Officials, Other teams and Corruption

ban-mcfc said:
Franny Lee's Barrel Chest said:
It's all bollocks. There was none of this in the first part of the season. No moaning about officials, and if there was, it didn't really matter because we were scoring for fun and winning games at a canter.

Then the side lost it's way. And then the excuses started. Yes we missed Yaya and Vinnie, but the rags lost Vidic and (arguably at the beginning of the season) Scholes, and they've had others out too.

No point blaming others or looking for excuses. Fact is we've had our chances and not taken them. We go into every game with 90 minutes of play to score at least a couple of goals, but since 5th November, we haven't scored more than 1 away goal in any league game.

That's not down to a ref not giving Fulham a pen at OT, it's nothing to do with Mario being banned for an obvious stamp and I'd even suggest it's nothing to do with Tevez' non appearance.

#Together (sic) we have failed away from home. Simple as that. It's a bit like being obvious candidates saying "We have to start winning" It never happens does it?

I really hope we can win these games and prove the doubters wrong. We will win all our home games, somehow, even the derby, but the away games are the killers at the moment.

there's a 60 page corruption thread but hey ho your opinion matters more then anyone else's so have your own thread.

and for the record how can we be using it as an excuse when you see what happened at the swamp last night? we should be a point behind after last night (about 10 in front counting all others).

You miss the point. It's ok having a self indulgent "everything is corrupt" wankfest. This isn't about corruption or lack of it, it's about our own failings, and the sooner we get to grips with that instead of blaming others, the better.
 
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