I'm thinking it is corrupt

[Dirty Harry]

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Why United don't get preferential treatment, despite penalty let-off against Fulham

Roberto Mancini and everyone associated with Manchester City will no doubt be seething over referee Michael Oliver's failure to award Fulham an 89th minute penalty at Old Trafford on Monday.

TV replays confirmed Oliver's decision to be erroneous - Michael Carrick had clipped the left heel of Danny Murphy, sending him sprawling to the ground, a penalty the only course of action.

But Oliver thought otherwise, waved play on and United held out to secure a nervy 1-0 win to establish a three-point lead over City in the title race with eight games to go.

Even Sir Alex Ferguson, the master of the smokescreen or obfuscation of the truth, could not dress the situation up as anything but a major let-off for United, acknowledging the legitimacy of Fulham's claim.

But was the decision compelling evidence of long perceived leniencey towards United from referees? Conspiracy theorists will suggest as much, citing the fear Ferguson strikes into officials as reason for Oliver's contentious decision.

Fulham boss Martin Jol certainly thought so, suggesting, in loose terms, that Oliver had bottled it, that the 27-year-old official had lacked the courage to make such a big call against United at Old Trafford.

Whataver the reason for Oliver's decision, the suggestion that United are dealt more favours by officials than other Premier League clubs is one that simply doesn't stand up to scrutiny.

Statistics provided by Opta confirmed only West Brom, with four, have conceded more penalties at home this season than United, who have given away three, blowing out of the water the argument about preferential treatment.

United fans will also point to November 26, when Rio Ferdinand made a legitimate challenge on Hatem Ben Arfa to win the ball, only for ref Mike Jones to award a penalty.

Demba Ba scored from the spot and Newcastle secured a 1-1 draw, leaving Sir Alex Ferguson to describe Jones's decision as a "travesty".

Every team suffers from miscarriages of justice when it comes to refereeing decisions. Equally, every team benefits from fortune when a decision that should go against them ends up going in their favour.

The very nature of having referees officiating games, rather than relying on video evidence, means there will always be an element of human error involved in the making of decisions.

United enjoyed good fortune with the penalty decision against Fulham. Yet City have also benefited from wrong decisions, notably on Saturday when Gareth Barry poleaxed Stoke's Glenn Whelan yet somehow managed to avoid a caution and conceding a penalty.

Yet there is no merit in delving into an analysis of every contentious decision, for those with allegiances will always argue their particular team has it worse than others, when the reality is that every team has its fair share of dodgy decisions over the course of a season.

If United go on to claim a 20th title, it will not be because Oliver failed to award Fulham a penalty and so denied them the chance to claim a point at Old Trafford.

It will be because City have fallen within sight of the finish line and lacked the nerve to see out the title race while United, as they have done with relentless consistency down the years, know how to get the job done. It's that simple.

Nice list, and from a newspaper that's as impartial as they come lol, but stats don't tell the whole story here, apart from the Newcastle one, when were the other decisions given and also the timing any other ropey decision ?

I'd hazard a guess that had you been 3 up last night, that penalty would have been given without a shadow of a doubt, it's not just the fact you get these ropey decisions, it's as much WHEN you get them, mostly seem to fall when it's more favourable to you.

 

[Anonymous]

god how i hate that cheating shitstain of a club.

mcdonnell can fuck off, that article is horrendous and is basically him spouting his biased opinion without any serious facts,

i'm turning my back on football i think. it's bent as fuck from the FArce down to the media and referee's.

 

[Balti]

Balti - funny how it's always the successful side that gets the accusation thrown at them... a la Liverpool not so long ago.

Try addressing the points raised in the article you quote, rather than just writing a meaningless sentence saying 'everyone knows'.

I didn't bother reading it all. I got as far as 'Roberto Mancini and everyone associated with Manchester City will no doubt be seething over referee Michael Oliver's failure to award Fulham an 89th minute penalty at Old Trafford on Monday''

I know the rest of the script.

Try talking to football fans of all clubs and getting their view instead of just trying to paint this as Blue tinted spectacles.

You're right that it applies to certain other teams too. Just not quite at the same level as it does for your lot especially when playing at the swamp.

Fans of all clubs know this. No doubt they are all wrong and fans of manyoo are all right as always lol

 

[chelseaaway84]

Re: Officials, Other teams and Corruption

we could be 4 points behind if webb had seen the pen tackle by barry and they had scored it

eight games to go all winable

come on city let our ability win it

 

[BlueTG]

So because that article says that only West Brom have conceded more penalties at home than United, they dont get preferential treatment? utter bollocks, just because theyve given three away doesnt mean they havnt had more that should have been given. Its not just about penalties, but how nearly every little pissing decision that could go their, does go their way.

 

[Balti]

Some of the things posted on this forum genuinely amaze me.

You're all convinced that there's bias - it's embarrassing. You post up examples to suit your own viewpoint, blissfully unaware (perhaps?) that there are many other incidents that, going by your logic, disprove your point?

Case in point:

Apparently United's poor showing in Europe proves the bias.

So when we won the Champions League, what happened?

Sky executives gave each other delirious high-fives, newspaper editors punched their desks with uncontained joy whilst Clive Tyldesley shot his insipid pixie spunk into his pleated chinos.

A bit like when Sunderland 'scored'. Despite being clearly offside.

 

[BertTrautmann'sParachute]

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Why United don't get preferential treatment, despite penalty let-off against Fulham

Roberto Mancini and everyone associated with Manchester City will no doubt be seething over referee Michael Oliver's failure to award Fulham an 89th minute penalty at Old Trafford on Monday.

TV replays confirmed Oliver's decision to be erroneous - Michael Carrick had clipped the left heel of Danny Murphy, sending him sprawling to the ground, a penalty the only course of action.

But Oliver thought otherwise, waved play on and United held out to secure a nervy 1-0 win to establish a three-point lead over City in the title race with eight games to go.

Even Sir Alex Ferguson, the master of the smokescreen or obfuscation of the truth, could not dress the situation up as anything but a major let-off for United, acknowledging the legitimacy of Fulham's claim.

But was the decision compelling evidence of long perceived leniencey towards United from referees? Conspiracy theorists will suggest as much, citing the fear Ferguson strikes into officials as reason for Oliver's contentious decision.

Fulham boss Martin Jol certainly thought so, suggesting, in loose terms, that Oliver had bottled it, that the 27-year-old official had lacked the courage to make such a big call against United at Old Trafford.

Whataver the reason for Oliver's decision, the suggestion that United are dealt more favours by officials than other Premier League clubs is one that simply doesn't stand up to scrutiny.

Statistics provided by Opta confirmed only West Brom, with four, have conceded more penalties at home this season than United, who have given away three, blowing out of the water the argument about preferential treatment.

United fans will also point to November 26, when Rio Ferdinand made a legitimate challenge on Hatem Ben Arfa to win the ball, only for ref Mike Jones to award a penalty.

Demba Ba scored from the spot and Newcastle secured a 1-1 draw, leaving Sir Alex Ferguson to describe Jones's decision as a "travesty".

Every team suffers from miscarriages of justice when it comes to refereeing decisions. Equally, every team benefits from fortune when a decision that should go against them ends up going in their favour.

The very nature of having referees officiating games, rather than relying on video evidence, means there will always be an element of human error involved in the making of decisions.

United enjoyed good fortune with the penalty decision against Fulham. Yet City have also benefited from wrong decisions, notably on Saturday when Gareth Barry poleaxed Stoke's Glenn Whelan yet somehow managed to avoid a caution and conceding a penalty.

Yet there is no merit in delving into an analysis of every contentious decision, for those with allegiances will always argue their particular team has it worse than others, when the reality is that every team has its fair share of dodgy decisions over the course of a season.

If United go on to claim a 20th title, it will not be because Oliver failed to award Fulham a penalty and so denied them the chance to claim a point at Old Trafford.

It will be because City have fallen within sight of the finish line and lacked the nerve to see out the title race while United, as they have done with relentless consistency down the years, know how to get the job done. It's that simple.

Well done the daily mirror. That's very, very funny.

 

[warren_richards04]

A different paper, but more of the same. Let's ignore the facts though, I suppose this is all part of the corruption, hey?


There is an assumption that when visiting Old Trafford, penalties are hard to come by. Referees are not simply making a decision; in front of a crowd of 75,000 people, among them Sir Alex Ferguson and against the best team in the land, they must make a ‘brave decision’.

But the statistics tell a different story.

Since August 2006 to now, Manchester United have conceded 9 penalties at home. That spans 110 games, meaning they have conceded 0.08 penalties per home game.

Ironically, Fulham have conceded 8 over the same time period and number of games, a record of 0.07 penalties per game. So despite claims that it is tougher to win a penalty at Old Trafford than other grounds, analysis shows it is actually harder to win a penalty at Craven Cottage.

Blackburn’s Ewood Park is the most likely current Premier League ground on which visiting teams will see the referee point to the spot. They’ve conceded 18 over 110 games – 0.16 per game.

The most ‘difficult’ place to be awarded a penalty is at Stamford Bridge. Of the existing Premier League teams, Chelsea have conceded the fewest since August 2006, just 6 at a rate of 0.05 per game. Aston Villa have also conceded six, but over the time period have played one less home game.

Manchester United got lucky last night, but the suggestion there is more to it than that is just wrong.

 

[everythingchangesbutblue]

Scum get favourable decisions.

Dogs chase cats.

it,s like the 3rd law of thermodynamics.

 

[moomba]

Balti - funny how it's always the successful side that gets the accusation thrown at them... a la Liverpool not so long ago.

Try addressing the points raised in the article you quote, rather than just writing a meaningless sentence saying 'everyone knows'.

Liverpool still get a very good deal out of the refs. And you can't really call them all that successful nowadays despite their cup win. And we seem to have had an awful run with the refs this season despite having statistically one of the best seasons in the past two decades.