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Is it time to panic yet?
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Wilf Wild 1937
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Good to see a bit of sense returning today. I pretty much had to log off and walk away yesterday. I keep reminding myself to stay calm and remember that some of the folks complaining about 'false dawns' and how shit we are might very well be too young to remember the mid '90's. I don't know what the age range on here is, but I suppose some younger posters now have no pre take over memories.
Some of us on remember when the last Messiah rolled (back) into town and was tasked with rebuilding a very good (not quite as good as this one) but aging team and totally fucked up.He did it his way because he was a genius, or so a lot of older Blues told us young lads at the time, and 3 decades of misery followed.
Pep may or may not be the real deal. I sincerely hope that he succeeds here but only time will tell. I don't know and nor does any other poster.I for one do get a bit twitchy though that some of our fans think that he is beyond criticism.The fact that elements - at least - of the hierarchy feel the same is disturbing. We've been here before and it didn't end well. Maybe that's because I'm an old git with a long memory.Maybe that was before your time?
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Fair enough (you old git). Only old enough to remember the three decades I'm afraid :-(Some of us on remember when the last Messiah rolled (back) into town and was tasked with rebuilding a very good (not quite as good as this one) but aging team and totally fucked up.He did it his way because he was a genius, or so a lot of older Blues told us young lads at the time, and 3 decades of misery followed.
Pep may or may not be the real deal. I sincerely hope that he succeeds here but only time will tell. I don't know and nor does any other poster.I for one do get a bit twitchy though that some of our fans think that he is beyond criticism.The fact that elements - at least - of the hierarchy feel the same is disturbing. We've been here before and it didn't end well. Maybe that's because I'm an old git with a long memory.Maybe that was before your time?
I don't think pep is beyond criticism, but I don't think he's quite worthy of hysteria just yet.
goatersnipple
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I absolutely think he's the right man.
But I am starting to wonder what the fuck is going on....
But I am starting to wonder what the fuck is going on....
Im just stunned that we are watching a team managed by Guardiola being so slow and meaningless in possession! Under Pellegrini it became the norm but we have reverted back to that under Pep!
This. Surely, our players are capable of moving the ball a bit more faster. That was like watching a game in ultra slow motion.
mosssideblue
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The problem for me is that there is a fair chunk of our first team who know the end is neigh and therefore have nothing to prove.Im just stunned that we are watching a team managed by Guardiola being so slow and meaningless in possession! Under Pellegrini it became the norm but we have reverted back to that under Pep!
BimboBob
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Panic? No need as I think we are safe from relegation now.
The only thing that does worry me is modern football in general. The game is full of mercenaries now and we have more than a few on our books.
I like how Klopp has brought in hungry players into his side that run through brick walls for him.
We need to swerve the primadonnas and injury prone players from now on.
I like how Klopp has brought in hungry players into his side that run through brick walls for him.
We need to swerve the primadonnas and injury prone players from now on.
nellyonthewing
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Same here I remember Big Mal on his 2nd coming. The best coach in the UK and probably the World allegedly. It was an unholy mess. Back then we didn't have the internet so no one could call you a heretic if you had reservations on the new messiah.Some of us on remember when the last Messiah rolled (back) into town and was tasked with rebuilding a very good (not quite as good as this one) but aging team and totally fucked up.He did it his way because he was a genius, or so a lot of older Blues told us young lads at the time, and 3 decades of misery followed.
Pep may or may not be the real deal. I sincerely hope that he succeeds here but only time will tell. I don't know and nor does any other poster.I for one do get a bit twitchy though that some of our fans think that he is beyond criticism.The fact that elements - at least - of the hierarchy feel the same is disturbing. We've been here before and it didn't end well. Maybe that's because I'm an old git with a long memory.Maybe that was before your time?
this season seems City will be no longer in top 2 in term of goal scoring and goal conceded.
with Aguero looking disinterested, and the league already half of the season,
i've failed to see any other player can deliver at least 20 goals this season.
which makes matter worse, City have unreliable defense. when even 0-0 draw will give us a point.
it's crazy to start panic when when City just trailing 3 point from 2nd place.
but in current form, i just wish is not just a starting point for City to going downhill from current position.
with Aguero looking disinterested, and the league already half of the season,
i've failed to see any other player can deliver at least 20 goals this season.
which makes matter worse, City have unreliable defense. when even 0-0 draw will give us a point.
it's crazy to start panic when when City just trailing 3 point from 2nd place.
but in current form, i just wish is not just a starting point for City to going downhill from current position.
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Blueknows
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Never expected us to walk the league this year ,even after our great start( which lets be honest raised everyones expectations) but the pressure will be on next season to deliverAs long as the Sheik and Pep don't
Go ahead panic away
This isn't Peps team
nellyonthewing
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Paul Power quoted in an article in the Independent saying just that. The lack of local youth distances fans and kills the passion in the game.The only thing that does worry me is modern football in general. The game is full of mercenaries now and we have more than a few on our books.
I like how Klopp has brought in hungry players into his side that run through brick walls for him.
We need to swerve the primadonnas and injury prone players from now on.
Chippy_boy
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We didn't have an owner with limitless wealth who had demonstrated that they are here for the long term, through thick and thin, either.Same here I remember Big Mal on his 2nd coming. The best coach in the UK and probably the World allegedly. It was an unholy mess. Back then we didn't have the internet so no one could call you a heretic if you had reservations on the new messiah.
If the worst comes to the worst, and the next 3 years are a write off (which I very much doubt), even then, so what. We'll still have the best academy in the country and will have more young talent coming through and we'll start again with another top coach. Hardly another 30 years of purgatory.
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We did splash the cash on some questionable signings though...and unfortunately the man in charge was here for the long term;)
Domestically the next couple of seasons could well be a write off as long as we persevere with a system that is easy for teams to play against; it's so easy to defend against and every time we're hit on the counter attack we concede. Also, can't see the academy players coming through until the team has a bit more success.
That's not to say we won't crack it eventually. Not sure new signings are the key, (although we do need a few) the present failings are more down to the players being asked to carry out the same predictable game plan every week in the hope of grooving it into a winning formula. I have a feeling it'll get worse before it gets better. Those who remember big Mal will also remember Kendall at Everton, (first time) being saved by the Adrian Heath goal and Ferguson by the Robins goal. Hopefully our current woes will be followed by similar success.
Not winning trophies isn't a problem for me, but it is frustrating to not be getting better results in the league with this group of players, when a slight tweak of the tactics would see us challenging for the title.
Domestically the next couple of seasons could well be a write off as long as we persevere with a system that is easy for teams to play against; it's so easy to defend against and every time we're hit on the counter attack we concede. Also, can't see the academy players coming through until the team has a bit more success.
That's not to say we won't crack it eventually. Not sure new signings are the key, (although we do need a few) the present failings are more down to the players being asked to carry out the same predictable game plan every week in the hope of grooving it into a winning formula. I have a feeling it'll get worse before it gets better. Those who remember big Mal will also remember Kendall at Everton, (first time) being saved by the Adrian Heath goal and Ferguson by the Robins goal. Hopefully our current woes will be followed by similar success.
Not winning trophies isn't a problem for me, but it is frustrating to not be getting better results in the league with this group of players, when a slight tweak of the tactics would see us challenging for the title.
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I think mark Hughes realised that when he was buying British players, they care more... it's how utd were able to win more than they should havePaul Power quoted in an article in the Independent saying just that. The lack of local youth distances fans and kills the passion in the game.
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Panic? No
End of the Golden Period? Most definitely.
City won the League in 2012, aided by the best Manager, the best Goalkeeper, the most goals scored, and the least goals conceded. In fact if it wasn’t for Clattenburg decreeing that Manchester City can’t be awarded a penalty at Stamford Bridge, then we would have won the League by a bigger margin.
By 2014, Liverpool were scoring as many goals and Chelsea had the best defence. Joe Hart was making enough mistakes to be dropped, and Mourinho was winning the major tactical battles (albeit one of them working to our advantage)
We still won the League, but in retrospect, there was an issue that affected our free flowing interplay, almost from the moment that Negredo was injured at West Ham. Even the vital win at Everton was almost surrendered in the dying minutes, for no reason than taking our foot off the gas at a critical moment.
Since then I’ve read so many similar threads, pleading for positive thinking as though we can somehow reverse the clock, and return to the days of Silva’s silky touch and vision, or Yaya’s marauding runs.
Sorry, but it ain’t gonna happen, and there’s a real danger of finishing 6th.
Whether that’s a disaster depends on your overall perspective of where the club should be, in relation to where we were 20 years ago.
End of the Golden Period? Most definitely.
City won the League in 2012, aided by the best Manager, the best Goalkeeper, the most goals scored, and the least goals conceded. In fact if it wasn’t for Clattenburg decreeing that Manchester City can’t be awarded a penalty at Stamford Bridge, then we would have won the League by a bigger margin.
By 2014, Liverpool were scoring as many goals and Chelsea had the best defence. Joe Hart was making enough mistakes to be dropped, and Mourinho was winning the major tactical battles (albeit one of them working to our advantage)
We still won the League, but in retrospect, there was an issue that affected our free flowing interplay, almost from the moment that Negredo was injured at West Ham. Even the vital win at Everton was almost surrendered in the dying minutes, for no reason than taking our foot off the gas at a critical moment.
Since then I’ve read so many similar threads, pleading for positive thinking as though we can somehow reverse the clock, and return to the days of Silva’s silky touch and vision, or Yaya’s marauding runs.
Sorry, but it ain’t gonna happen, and there’s a real danger of finishing 6th.
Whether that’s a disaster depends on your overall perspective of where the club should be, in relation to where we were 20 years ago.
flb
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Paul Power quoted in an article in the Independent saying just that. The lack of local youth distances fans and kills the passion in the game.
Read that myself mate and hes absolutely right in what he says.
flb
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Panic? No
End of the Golden Period? Most definitely.
City won the League in 2012, aided by the best Manager, the best Goalkeeper, the most goals scored, and the least goals conceded. In fact if it wasn’t for Clattenburg decreeing that Manchester City can’t be awarded a penalty at Stamford Bridge, then we would have won the League by a bigger margin.
By 2014, Liverpool were scoring as many goals and Chelsea had the best defence. Joe Hart was making enough mistakes to be dropped, and Mourinho was winning the major tactical battles (albeit one of them working to our advantage)
We still won the League, but in retrospect, there was an issue that affected our free flowing interplay, almost from the moment that Negredo was injured at West Ham. Even the vital win at Everton was almost surrendered in the dying minutes, for no reason than taking our foot off the gas at a critical moment.
Since then I’ve read so many similar threads, pleading for positive thinking as though we can somehow reverse the clock, and return to the days of Silva’s silky touch and vision, or Yaya’s marauding runs.
Sorry, but it ain’t gonna happen, and there’s a real danger of finishing 6th.
Whether that’s a disaster depends on your overall perspective of where the club should be, in relation to where we were 20 years ago.
Certainly not a disaster but it simply isn't good enough for a team who have still spent fortunes on players in the past three seasons, Tottenham for one did better than us last season and by all accounts pound for pound look a better side than us this season-with a squad nowhere near allegedly as good as ours. We look distinctly average this season-says it all when we seem to be looking forward to next season already.
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Certainly not a disaster but it simply isn't good enough for a team who have still spent fortunes on players in the past three seasons, Tottenham for one did better than us last season and by all accounts pound for pound look a better side than us this season-with a squad nowhere near allegedly as good as ours. We look distinctly average this season-says it all when we seem to be looking forward to next season already.
Agree completely, but some people still prefer to play the York Card as though that excuses the current drabness.