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Is now the time to consider Mancini's tenure at the club
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sir baconface
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chesterbells said:LoveCity said:chicagoblues said:This is Manchester city FC NOT Chelsea FC
How would replacing a manager after 3+ years in charge resemble Chelsea FC's treatment of their managers? Not that I am endorsing it but if he is replaced it will have been a carefully considered move by our highly qualified men in charge.
Exactly, if he's replaced by a better manager, is that a problem? I think it would be for some on here, who seem to suggest that for some kind of 'moral' reasons, of 'natural justice' it would be wrong to upgrade only months after winning the title. I don't think we can be that way, and if some think that ruthlessness would make us more like Chelsea then I couldn't care less
The "moral" case is partly about fairness and partly about being pragmatic. The justice argument is that he has earned the right to stay the rest of the season to try to put things right. The practical side is that he has turned a no-hope situation round once before and ...who knows? Fair enough. We are a decent club and we owe Mancini some slack for making such big strides.
Nobody is saying for ever. Sentiment doesn't bring home the bacon. By all means take stock at the end of the season and make a considered decision in the light of progress, results, availability of better alternatives and all the other factors.
If he is replaced, this forum will probably end up no more (dare I say?) united. Mourinho would be a much bigger test of morals than anything we've seen so far.
LoveCity said:de niro said:there is not a fixture in world football that we are incapable of winning.
Everton away. ;)
As a club we have got stop thinking like that.
baildon blue
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Dont forget Arsenal away in the league we havent won their since the mid 70sLoveCity said:de niro said:there is not a fixture in world football that we are incapable of winning.
Everton away. ;)
Chippy_boy
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moomba said:tolmie's hairdoo said:It's absolutely insulting to our owner and Khaldoon to suggest Mancini takes the credit for the progress which this club had made in four seasons.
Of course he should take some credit for the progress which the club has made. As should the people in charge, as should the players.
I wonder what his Highness thinks when he now sees people jumping to Mancini's defence, how he has earned the right to remain in the job.
Sheikh Mansour and Khaldoon have earned the right to call the shots as they see fit.
The correlation between our trophies in down to one man. They backed Mancini to the hilt in the market, and appointed him, knowing he could take us to the nest level.
They've absolutely earned the right to call the shots in regard to the manager. Currently their position is that Mancini is the right man for the club.
With the greatest respect mate, you have no clue whether that is true or not. And incidentally, I do not think it is.
They might well have already decided that he is not the right man, but are waiting for the best timing to replace him.
leewill31 said:poor mancini he must be looking at his front players and wondering what the hell they are doing at the moment not scoring for fun in most games we have played!
Just had a look then:
Tevez 1 from his last 8
Aguero 1 from his last 8
Dzeko 1 from his last 13
Mario 1 from his last 11
No wonder we played Lescott up front. ;)
grim up north
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moomba said:leewill31 said:poor mancini he must be looking at his front players and wondering what the hell they are doing at the moment not scoring for fun in most games we have played!
Just had a look then:
Tevez 1 from his last 8
Aguero 1 from his last 8
Dzeko 1 from his last 13
Mario 1 from his last 11
No wonder we played Lescott up front. ;)
Mancini forgot to put our saviour on
Chippy_boy said:With the greatest respect mate, you have no clue whether that is true or not. And incidentally, I do not think it is.
They might well have already decided that he is not the right man, but are waiting for the best timing to replace him.
Currently he is considered by the people in charge of our club to be the right man to be in charge of the club.
That's a fact. They may have ideas about who will be the right man for the club in the future, but right here right now he is the man they want to be in the dugout for our next game.
Indisputable fact I'm afraid.
Chippy_boy
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moomba said:Chippy_boy said:With the greatest respect mate, you have no clue whether that is true or not. And incidentally, I do not think it is.
They might well have already decided that he is not the right man, but are waiting for the best timing to replace him.
Currently he is considered by the people in charge of our club to be the right man to be in charge of the club.
That's a fact. They may have ideas about who will be the right man for the club in the future, but right here right now he is the man they want to be in the dugout for our next game.
Indisputable fact I'm afraid.
Indisputable semantic bollocks. Foolish of me to momentariliy expect more from you.
Thanks for reminding me not to bother.
Edit, and by the way, if we want to play stupid arses twisting things, you are also factually wrong as well, because he might have been sacked by now and you have no way of knowing.
Your claim that the management currently think he is the right man for the job is unfounded on every level.
chesterbells
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sir baconface said:chesterbells said:LoveCity said:How would replacing a manager after 3+ years in charge resemble Chelsea FC's treatment of their managers? Not that I am endorsing it but if he is replaced it will have been a carefully considered move by our highly qualified men in charge.
Exactly, if he's replaced by a better manager, is that a problem? I think it would be for some on here, who seem to suggest that for some kind of 'moral' reasons, of 'natural justice' it would be wrong to upgrade only months after winning the title. I don't think we can be that way, and if some think that ruthlessness would make us more like Chelsea then I couldn't care less
The "moral" case is partly about fairness and partly about being pragmatic. The justice argument is that he has earned the right to stay the rest of the season to try to put things right. The practical side is that he has turned a no-hope situation round once before and ...who knows? Fair enough. We are a decent club and we owe Mancini some slack for making such big strides.
Nobody is saying for ever. Sentiment doesn't bring home the bacon. By all means take stock at the end of the season and make a considered decision in the light of progress, results, availability of better alternatives and all the other factors.
If he is replaced, this forum will probably end up no more (dare I say?) united. Mourinho would be a much bigger test of morals than anything we've seen so far.
"..bring home the bacon" very good ;)
Yeah mate, a fair response that. I suppose in my calmer moments I concede he probably should and will get till at least the end of this season. It's just frustrating that the cracks seem to be getting wider by the week. I hope whenever we do decide to make a change our owners do it when the timing is best for the club, that is, at a time when the highest calibre candidate
is available