Isco

Does no one think he'd be a slight luxury? He would undoubtedly add depth, but it'd be more of the same. He is a playmaker and we already have two outstanding playmakers. He also favours playing on the left side which is where we played Lopes in the first team, so a permanent deal for Isco could have ramifications for Lopes' future. I also think Lopes is a little more direct in his play which is what we need more of to compliment Silva and Nasri (I know Lopes is out on loan but am talking about in the future).

So I don't really see an urgency for Isco. If given a straight choice, I'd much rather have a player like Di Maria, Griezmann or Reus because they offer more of what we don't have, Isco offers more of what we do already have but isn't as good as Silva or Nasri (despite it being popular to downplay Nasri's influence, he is a better player than Isco at this point in time).

And it's not like Silva and Nasri are so old we need a definite successor yet. By the time they are past it, someone like Manu Garcia could even be good enough and if not, there are never a lack of promising Spanish playmakers (i.e. Oliver Torres).
 
LoveCity said:
Does no one think he'd be a slight luxury? He would undoubtedly add depth, but it'd be more of the same. He is a playmaker and we already have two outstanding playmakers. He also favours playing on the left side which is where we played Lopes in the first team, so a permanent deal for Isco could have ramifications for Lopes' future. I also think Lopes is a little more direct in his play which is what we need more of to compliment Silva and Nasri (I know Lopes is out on loan but am talking about in the future).

So I don't really see an urgency for Isco. If given a straight choice, I'd much rather have a player like Di Maria, Griezmann or Reus because they offer more of what we don't have, Isco offers more of what we do already have but isn't as good as Silva or Nasri (despite it being popular to downplay Nasri's influence, he is a better player than Isco at this point in time).

And it's not like Silva and Nasri are so old we need a definite successor yet. By the time they are past it, someone like Manu Garcia could even be good enough and if not, there are never a lack of promising Spanish playmakers (i.e. Oliver Torres).
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I agree with you, Isco style of play is similar to Silva and Nasri.

So if we are going to spend big then lets buy someone who will add new dimension to the team.
 
I think Lopes will be able to play anywhere behind the front man and for me he will become a Reus or Sanchez type player playing like a wide striker/ creative striker coming in off the wing and running in behind defences.

Isco is best behind the striker for me because like Mata and unlike Silva he has goals in him.

I think we need another creative player pesonally and with Isco up for grabs I don't think we can turn the opportunity down.
 
sam-caddick said:
I think Lopes will be able to play anywhere behind the front man and for me he will become a Reus or Sanchez type player playing like a wide striker/ creative striker coming in off the wing and running in behind defences.

Isco is best behind the striker for me because like Mata and unlike Silva he has goals in him.

I think we need another creative player pesonally and with Isco up for grabs I don't think we can turn the opportunity down.
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With Negredo out he gives us option to play just behind Aguero.......a loan signing would be great
 
LoveCity said:
Does no one think he'd be a slight luxury? He would undoubtedly add depth, but it'd be more of the same. He is a playmaker and we already have two outstanding playmakers. He also favours playing on the left side which is where we played Lopes in the first team, so a permanent deal for Isco could have ramifications for Lopes' future. I also think Lopes is a little more direct in his play which is what we need more of to compliment Silva and Nasri (I know Lopes is out on loan but am talking about in the future).

So I don't really see an urgency for Isco. If given a straight choice, I'd much rather have a player like Di Maria, Griezmann or Reus because they offer more of what we don't have, Isco offers more of what we do already have but isn't as good as Silva or Nasri (despite it being popular to downplay Nasri's influence, he is a better player than Isco at this point in time).

And it's not like Silva and Nasri are so old we need a definite successor yet. By the time they are past it, someone like Manu Garcia could even be good enough and if not, there are never a lack of promising Spanish playmakers (i.e. Oliver Torres).
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Isco is a mix between Hazard and Silva/Nasri

Hazard is primarily a goalscoring dribbler (something we lack)
Silva/Nasri are primarily creators/passers

Silva/Nasri average between 1 and 1.5 dribbles per game. Hazard averages 4 per game. Isco averages 3
Silva averages nearly an assist every 2 games. Hazard every 4 games. Isco every 3.
Silva/Nasri averages a goal every 3/4 games. Hazard nearly every 2 games. Isco every 3

I'd understand your concern if he was pretty much a creator alone but he isn't. He's a quality dribbler and a real goalthreat. Play him in the number 10 role and I can only see his numbers rise.
At the right club this lad will rival Iniesta ...but with goals. Miss out at our peril!
 
El Mago said:
LoveCity said:
Does no one think he'd be a slight luxury? He would undoubtedly add depth, but it'd be more of the same. He is a playmaker and we already have two outstanding playmakers. He also favours playing on the left side which is where we played Lopes in the first team, so a permanent deal for Isco could have ramifications for Lopes' future. I also think Lopes is a little more direct in his play which is what we need more of to compliment Silva and Nasri (I know Lopes is out on loan but am talking about in the future).

So I don't really see an urgency for Isco. If given a straight choice, I'd much rather have a player like Di Maria, Griezmann or Reus because they offer more of what we don't have, Isco offers more of what we do already have but isn't as good as Silva or Nasri (despite it being popular to downplay Nasri's influence, he is a better player than Isco at this point in time).

And it's not like Silva and Nasri are so old we need a definite successor yet. By the time they are past it, someone like Manu Garcia could even be good enough and if not, there are never a lack of promising Spanish playmakers (i.e. Oliver Torres).
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I agree with you, Isco style of play is similar to Silva and Nasri.

So if we are going to spend big then lets buy someone who will add new dimension to the team.
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The thing is though that Silva isn't going to be here forever.

I'm not just on about his age, he's coming into his 5th season with us now and I can see him wanting to return to Spain before he gets too old. 5 years is a long time for any foreign player to spend with a club and whilst I hope Dave spends the rest of his career here, I would not begrudge him a move if he wanted to return home.

Hopefully when that happens we have someone like Isco who can come in and try and take the burden of Dave leaving.
 
ElanJo said:
LoveCity said:
Does no one think he'd be a slight luxury? He would undoubtedly add depth, but it'd be more of the same. He is a playmaker and we already have two outstanding playmakers. He also favours playing on the left side which is where we played Lopes in the first team, so a permanent deal for Isco could have ramifications for Lopes' future. I also think Lopes is a little more direct in his play which is what we need more of to compliment Silva and Nasri (I know Lopes is out on loan but am talking about in the future).

So I don't really see an urgency for Isco. If given a straight choice, I'd much rather have a player like Di Maria, Griezmann or Reus because they offer more of what we don't have, Isco offers more of what we do already have but isn't as good as Silva or Nasri (despite it being popular to downplay Nasri's influence, he is a better player than Isco at this point in time).

And it's not like Silva and Nasri are so old we need a definite successor yet. By the time they are past it, someone like Manu Garcia could even be good enough and if not, there are never a lack of promising Spanish playmakers (i.e. Oliver Torres).
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Isco is a mix between Hazard and Silva/Nasri

Hazard is primarily a goalscoring dribbler (something we lack)
Silva/Nasri are primarily creators/passers

Silva/Nasri average between 1 and 1.5 dribbles per game. Hazard averages 4 per game. Isco averages 3
Silva averages nearly an assist every 2 games. Hazard every 4 games. Isco every 3.
Silva/Nasri averages a goal every 3/4 games. Hazard nearly every 2 games. Isco every 3

I'd understand your concern if he was pretty much a creator alone but he isn't. He's a quality dribbler and a real goalthreat. Play him in the number 10 role and I can only see his numbers rise.
At the right club this lad will rival Iniesta ...but with goals. Miss out at our peril!
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I agree mate.

I think he is going to be one of the best playmakers in world football in the next couple of years.

To get him on loan for a season with a purchase next season is a no brainer.
 
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