Isco

[Tbilisi]

Eastlander wrote:
I posted this on another thread, but it sits in this one better.

Assuming Mangala is done, Garcia & Guidetti out, this leave us with the 17 for the league being -

W Caballero
B Sagna
P Zabaleta
M Demechelis
V Kompany
E Mangala
A Kolarov
Fernando
Fernandinho
Y Toure
J Navas
S Nasri
D Silva
S Jovetic
S Aguero
E Dzeko
A Negredo

Who makes way for Isco ?

I personally would not like to lose any of the above for Isco.

Seems we have four options.

Option A

If we can't sell or loan any of the so called deadwood, players will need to be told they will only be considered for domestic cup competitions (Garcia,) where there is no limit on squad players.

Option B

Players told they will only be permitted to play in either Champions league or Premier League but not both

Negredo (Injured and out for a couple of months but will return in time for some of group games but will be included in prem games from( Jan 2015) if this not done then
Demichelis (Considered for premier league but not Champions League given will have just returned from WC duty, allows Mangala to get feet under table) can find a new club in January 2015.
Cabellero ( Could be told not playing CL until Jan 2015 his spot will be given to EDS under 21 keeper instead, but will come into the squad in January if MDM leaves)


Option c

A combination of A and B above using January window to get rid if they don't take the hint this summer - really getting nasty but this will have to be done

Option D

Isco joins on basis will only be playing Prem League and Domestic cups or CL and domestic cups and not both.

Just a thought, as he's only just 22, where does that place him in the A list B list for European competition? I know Nasti is considered A list yet. Isco wouldn't be 23 till near end of season? What's the cut off date?

Wheres Clichy?

 

[pudge]

Seems we have four options.

Option A

If we can't sell or loan any of the so called deadwood, players will need to be told they will only be considered for domestic cup competitions (Garcia,) where there is no limit on squad players.

Option B

Players told they will only be permitted to play in either Champions league or Premier League but not both

Negredo (Injured and out for a couple of months but will return in time for some of group games but will be included in prem games from( Jan 2015) if this not done then
Demichelis (Considered for premier league but not Champions League given will have just returned from WC duty, allows Mangala to get feet under table) can find a new club in January 2015.
Cabellero ( Could be told not playing CL until Jan 2015 his spot will be given to EDS under 21 keeper instead, but will come into the squad in January if MDM leaves)


Option c

A combination of A and B above using January window to get rid if they don't take the hint this summer - really getting nasty but this will have to be done

Option D

Isco joins on basis will only be playing Prem League and Domestic cups or CL and domestic cups and not both.

Just a thought, as he's only just 22, where does that place him in the A list B list for European competition? I know Nasti is considered A list yet. Isco wouldn't be 23 till near end of season? What's the cut off date?

Wheres Clichy?

in America

 

[ONTHERUNWITHTHAKSIN]

I'm sure when the club want to announce something it will be uploaded on the official website.

And then taken off again ;)

 

[Rammyblues]

Clichy isn't a foreign player came out of Arsenals academy.

 

[david whites spike]

I'm sure when the club want to announce something it will be uploaded on the official website.

Yes of course but this guy is a must.
He is of the silva nasri ilk who we haven't got cover for at the moment and could also back up the main striker.

He's not a main striker ...

Read back......never said he was.
He can play behind the striker or come of the inside wing ala silva.
Therefore back up THE main striker ie. aguero dzeko jovetic negredo although one of them would have to be sacrificed for CPL squad.(my choice would be negredo)

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

Eastlander wrote:
I posted this on another thread, but it sits in this one better.

Assuming Mangala is done, Garcia & Guidetti out, this leave us with the 17 for the league being -

W Caballero
B Sagna
P Zabaleta
M Demechelis
V Kompany
E Mangala
A Kolarov
Fernando
Fernandinho
Y Toure
J Navas
S Nasri
D Silva
S Jovetic
S Aguero
E Dzeko
A Negredo

Who makes way for Isco ?

I personally would not like to lose any of the above for Isco.

Seems we have four options.

Option A

If we can't sell or loan any of the so called deadwood, players will need to be told they will only be considered for domestic cup competitions (Garcia,) where there is no limit on squad players.

Option B

Players told they will only be permitted to play in either Champions league or Premier League but not both

Negredo (Injured and out for a couple of months but will return in time for some of group games but will be included in prem games from( Jan 2015) if this not done then
Demichelis (Considered for premier league but not Champions League given will have just returned from WC duty, allows Mangala to get feet under table) can find a new club in January 2015.
Cabellero ( Could be told not playing CL until Jan 2015 his spot will be given to EDS under 21 keeper instead, but will come into the squad in January if MDM leaves)


Option c

A combination of A and B above using January window to get rid if they don't take the hint this summer - really getting nasty but this will have to be done

Option D

Isco joins on basis will only be playing Prem League and Domestic cups or CL and domestic cups and not both.

Thanks for this thoughtful post. This is exactly the reason I don't think Isco is coming -- all of these options limit our flexibility and seem unpalatable. My perception has been that the only way Isco works is if we move Jovetic. Better in my view to hope Isco stays at RM but still wants to come in 2015 when we'll have more player and financial flexibility. He might want to join even more if he's shunted aside again at RM (though I recognize that was in part because of the system they used last season).

 

[david whites spike]

In favour of who? where would we find better quality prepared to battle it out alongside Jovetic and Aguero?

I don't mean we should just get rid,my point is that if world class players like isco become available then we should go for it and replace current players that aren't up to the standard of 'world class'.

Are you sure that Isco is ready for the "world class" moniker? Having world class potential is not the same as actually being world class.

I honestly think he is mate at such a young inexperienced age......seen a lot of him and he will flourish in our system.
Perfect fit and let's be honest at the moment nasri and silva are our preferred choice of personnel.this guy is just as good and the rotation of those three would only help us long term.

 

[Tbilisi]

Just a thought, as he's only just 22, where does that place him in the A list B list for European competition? I know Nasti is considered A list yet. Isco wouldn't be 23 till near end of season? What's the cut off date?

Wheres Clichy?

in America

Youll be saying he played right back next

 

[adrianr]

I posted this on another thread, but it sits in this one better.

Assuming Mangala is done, Garcia & Guidetti out, this leave us with the 17 for the league being -

W Caballero
B Sagna
P Zabaleta
M Demechelis
V Kompany
E Mangala
A Kolarov
Fernando
Fernandinho
Y Toure
J Navas
S Nasri
D Silva
S Jovetic
S Aguero
E Dzeko
A Negredo

Who makes way for Isco ?

I personally would not like to lose any of the above for Isco.

Nor me. As far as I'm concerned we bought Jovetic instead. We need to be focusing on home grown players anyway.

 

[lancs blue]

Eastlander wrote:
I posted this on another thread, but it sits in this one better.

Assuming Mangala is done, Garcia & Guidetti out, this leave us with the 17 for the league being -

W Caballero
B Sagna
P Zabaleta
M Demechelis
V Kompany
E Mangala
A Kolarov
Fernando
Fernandinho
Y Toure
J Navas
S Nasri
D Silva
S Jovetic
S Aguero
E Dzeko
A Negredo

Who makes way for Isco ?

I personally would not like to lose any of the above for Isco.

Seems we have four options.

Option A

If we can't sell or loan any of the so called deadwood, players will need to be told they will only be considered for domestic cup competitions (Garcia,) where there is no limit on squad players.

Option B

Players told they will only be permitted to play in either Champions league or Premier League but not both

Negredo (Injured and out for a couple of months but will return in time for some of group games but will be included in prem games from( Jan 2015) if this not done then
Demichelis (Considered for premier league but not Champions League given will have just returned from WC duty, allows Mangala to get feet under table) can find a new club in January 2015.
Cabellero ( Could be told not playing CL until Jan 2015 his spot will be given to EDS under 21 keeper instead, but will come into the squad in January if MDM leaves)


Option c

A combination of A and B above using January window to get rid if they don't take the hint this summer - really getting nasty but this will have to be done

Option D

Isco joins on basis will only be playing Prem League and Domestic cups or CL and domestic cups and not both.

Just a thought, as he's only just 22, where does that place him in the A list B list for European competition? I know Nasti is considered A list yet. Isco wouldn't be 23 till near end of season? What's the cut off date?

It's irrelevant for Isco, B list players have to have been at the club for at least 2 seasons.