Isco

[CitizenTID]

Fuck it. Let's buy Isco.

 

[Carstairs]

Fuck it. Let's have a disco.

:)

 

[LoveCity]

Does no one think he'd be a slight luxury? He would undoubtedly add depth, but it'd be more of the same. He is a playmaker and we already have two outstanding playmakers. He also favours playing on the left side which is where we played Lopes in the first team, so a permanent deal for Isco could have ramifications for Lopes' future. I also think Lopes is a little more direct in his play which is what we need more of to compliment Silva and Nasri (I know Lopes is out on loan but am talking about in the future).

So I don't really see an urgency for Isco. If given a straight choice, I'd much rather have a player like Di Maria, Griezmann or Reus because they offer more of what we don't have, Isco offers more of what we do already have but isn't as good as Silva or Nasri (despite it being popular to downplay Nasri's influence, he is a better player than Isco at this point in time).

And it's not like Silva and Nasri are so old we need a definite successor yet. By the time they are past it, someone like Manu Garcia could even be good enough and if not, there are never a lack of promising Spanish playmakers (i.e. Oliver Torres).

 

[El Mago]

Does no one think he'd be a slight luxury? He would undoubtedly add depth, but it'd be more of the same. He is a playmaker and we already have two outstanding playmakers. He also favours playing on the left side which is where we played Lopes in the first team, so a permanent deal for Isco could have ramifications for Lopes' future. I also think Lopes is a little more direct in his play which is what we need more of to compliment Silva and Nasri (I know Lopes is out on loan but am talking about in the future).

So I don't really see an urgency for Isco. If given a straight choice, I'd much rather have a player like Di Maria, Griezmann or Reus because they offer more of what we don't have, Isco offers more of what we do already have but isn't as good as Silva or Nasri (despite it being popular to downplay Nasri's influence, he is a better player than Isco at this point in time).

And it's not like Silva and Nasri are so old we need a definite successor yet. By the time they are past it, someone like Manu Garcia could even be good enough and if not, there are never a lack of promising Spanish playmakers (i.e. Oliver Torres).

I agree with you, Isco style of play is similar to Silva and Nasri.

So if we are going to spend big then lets buy someone who will add new dimension to the team.

 

[onceabluealways]

I ca only see us going for ISCO if Peller's decided to let Jovetic go and thinks ISCO would be the better option.

 

[sam-caddick]

I think Lopes will be able to play anywhere behind the front man and for me he will become a Reus or Sanchez type player playing like a wide striker/ creative striker coming in off the wing and running in behind defences.

Isco is best behind the striker for me because like Mata and unlike Silva he has goals in him.

I think we need another creative player pesonally and with Isco up for grabs I don't think we can turn the opportunity down.

 

[Daz_Blue]

I think Lopes will be able to play anywhere behind the front man and for me he will become a Reus or Sanchez type player playing like a wide striker/ creative striker coming in off the wing and running in behind defences.

Isco is best behind the striker for me because like Mata and unlike Silva he has goals in him.

I think we need another creative player pesonally and with Isco up for grabs I don't think we can turn the opportunity down.

With Negredo out he gives us option to play just behind Aguero.......a loan signing would be great

 

[ElanJo]

Does no one think he'd be a slight luxury? He would undoubtedly add depth, but it'd be more of the same. He is a playmaker and we already have two outstanding playmakers. He also favours playing on the left side which is where we played Lopes in the first team, so a permanent deal for Isco could have ramifications for Lopes' future. I also think Lopes is a little more direct in his play which is what we need more of to compliment Silva and Nasri (I know Lopes is out on loan but am talking about in the future).

So I don't really see an urgency for Isco. If given a straight choice, I'd much rather have a player like Di Maria, Griezmann or Reus because they offer more of what we don't have, Isco offers more of what we do already have but isn't as good as Silva or Nasri (despite it being popular to downplay Nasri's influence, he is a better player than Isco at this point in time).

And it's not like Silva and Nasri are so old we need a definite successor yet. By the time they are past it, someone like Manu Garcia could even be good enough and if not, there are never a lack of promising Spanish playmakers (i.e. Oliver Torres).

Isco is a mix between Hazard and Silva/Nasri

Hazard is primarily a goalscoring dribbler (something we lack)
Silva/Nasri are primarily creators/passers

Silva/Nasri average between 1 and 1.5 dribbles per game. Hazard averages 4 per game. Isco averages 3
Silva averages nearly an assist every 2 games. Hazard every 4 games. Isco every 3.
Silva/Nasri averages a goal every 3/4 games. Hazard nearly every 2 games. Isco every 3

I'd understand your concern if he was pretty much a creator alone but he isn't. He's a quality dribbler and a real goalthreat. Play him in the number 10 role and I can only see his numbers rise.
At the right club this lad will rival Iniesta ...but with goals. Miss out at our peril!

 

[daztrueblue91]

Does no one think he'd be a slight luxury? He would undoubtedly add depth, but it'd be more of the same. He is a playmaker and we already have two outstanding playmakers. He also favours playing on the left side which is where we played Lopes in the first team, so a permanent deal for Isco could have ramifications for Lopes' future. I also think Lopes is a little more direct in his play which is what we need more of to compliment Silva and Nasri (I know Lopes is out on loan but am talking about in the future).

So I don't really see an urgency for Isco. If given a straight choice, I'd much rather have a player like Di Maria, Griezmann or Reus because they offer more of what we don't have, Isco offers more of what we do already have but isn't as good as Silva or Nasri (despite it being popular to downplay Nasri's influence, he is a better player than Isco at this point in time).

And it's not like Silva and Nasri are so old we need a definite successor yet. By the time they are past it, someone like Manu Garcia could even be good enough and if not, there are never a lack of promising Spanish playmakers (i.e. Oliver Torres).

I agree with you, Isco style of play is similar to Silva and Nasri.

So if we are going to spend big then lets buy someone who will add new dimension to the team.

The thing is though that Silva isn't going to be here forever.

I'm not just on about his age, he's coming into his 5th season with us now and I can see him wanting to return to Spain before he gets too old. 5 years is a long time for any foreign player to spend with a club and whilst I hope Dave spends the rest of his career here, I would not begrudge him a move if he wanted to return home.

Hopefully when that happens we have someone like Isco who can come in and try and take the burden of Dave leaving.

 

[sam-caddick]

Does no one think he'd be a slight luxury? He would undoubtedly add depth, but it'd be more of the same. He is a playmaker and we already have two outstanding playmakers. He also favours playing on the left side which is where we played Lopes in the first team, so a permanent deal for Isco could have ramifications for Lopes' future. I also think Lopes is a little more direct in his play which is what we need more of to compliment Silva and Nasri (I know Lopes is out on loan but am talking about in the future).

So I don't really see an urgency for Isco. If given a straight choice, I'd much rather have a player like Di Maria, Griezmann or Reus because they offer more of what we don't have, Isco offers more of what we do already have but isn't as good as Silva or Nasri (despite it being popular to downplay Nasri's influence, he is a better player than Isco at this point in time).

And it's not like Silva and Nasri are so old we need a definite successor yet. By the time they are past it, someone like Manu Garcia could even be good enough and if not, there are never a lack of promising Spanish playmakers (i.e. Oliver Torres).

Isco is a mix between Hazard and Silva/Nasri

Hazard is primarily a goalscoring dribbler (something we lack)
Silva/Nasri are primarily creators/passers

Silva/Nasri average between 1 and 1.5 dribbles per game. Hazard averages 4 per game. Isco averages 3
Silva averages nearly an assist every 2 games. Hazard every 4 games. Isco every 3.
Silva/Nasri averages a goal every 3/4 games. Hazard nearly every 2 games. Isco every 3

I'd understand your concern if he was pretty much a creator alone but he isn't. He's a quality dribbler and a real goalthreat. Play him in the number 10 role and I can only see his numbers rise.
At the right club this lad will rival Iniesta ...but with goals. Miss out at our peril!

I agree mate.

I think he is going to be one of the best playmakers in world football in the next couple of years.

To get him on loan for a season with a purchase next season is a no brainer.

 

[Lee the Blue]

He had his chance to join us last summer, he chose Real. He can be happy with that as he got a Champs Lge winners medal which few have.

However, like any sane person could have seen, he wont get to play that often and will get squeezed out. In that situation it isn't our job to be his perennial safety net. The story goes that he gave his word to Pellegrini and Begeristein last summer and then reversed on it, so I cant see us going back there at all nor should we.

We have Nasri, we have Silva and we also no monies due to those daft sanctions we accepted, along with this daft quota we have. In short, it isn't happening and it shouldnt either. F**k him, he had his chance - move on.

 

[sam-caddick]

He had his chance to join us last summer, he chose Real. He can be happy with that as he got a Champs Lge winners medal which few have.

However, like any sane person could have seen, he wont get to play that often and will get squeezed out. In that situation it isn't our job to be his perennial safety net. The story goes that he gave his word to Pellegrini and Begeristein last summer and then reversed on it, so I cant see us going back there at all nor should we.

We have Nasri, we have Silva and we also no monies due to those daft sanctions we accepted, along with this daft quota we have. In short, it isn't happening and it shouldnt either. F**k him, he had his chance - move on.

From what I heard, City didn't value Isco at the fee Real Madrid were willing to pay for him, add in the fee's his agent wanted as well.

 

[Ray78]

Last summer he would of been a player who would of added to our squad but not now.

 

[chris85mcfc]

He had his chance to join us last summer, he chose Real. He can be happy with that as he got a Champs Lge winners medal which few have.

However, like any sane person could have seen, he wont get to play that often and will get squeezed out. In that situation it isn't our job to be his perennial safety net. The story goes that he gave his word to Pellegrini and Begeristein last summer and then reversed on it, so I cant see us going back there at all nor should we.

We have Nasri, we have Silva and we also no monies due to those daft sanctions we accepted, along with this daft quota we have. In short, it isn't happening and it shouldnt either. F**k him, he had his chance - move on.

Ahh yes the good old 'cut your nose off to spite your face'

That theory always works a treat

 

[Blue Haze]

We've been very lucky with Silva. Despite having a surgically repaired ankle that causes him occasional time on the sideline, he's avoided major injury. We'd be hard pressed to break down stubborn defending if he had an injury like Negredo's.

Nasri is technically a playmaker but he's too inconsistent. I don't think he's on the level of Silva at all. Only Yaya is.

 

[Centurions]

Last summer he would of been a player who would of added to our squad but not now.

You don't think that Isco would add to our squad? Seriously?

 

[Lee the Blue]

He had his chance to join us last summer, he chose Real. He can be happy with that as he got a Champs Lge winners medal which few have.

However, like any sane person could have seen, he wont get to play that often and will get squeezed out. In that situation it isn't our job to be his perennial safety net. The story goes that he gave his word to Pellegrini and Begeristein last summer and then reversed on it, so I cant see us going back there at all nor should we.

We have Nasri, we have Silva and we also no monies due to those daft sanctions we accepted, along with this daft quota we have. In short, it isn't happening and it shouldnt either. F**k him, he had his chance - move on.

Ahh yes the good old 'cut your nose off to spite your face'

That theory always works a treat

And if Isco had been brought in last summer, Nasri would more than likely have been off. Nasri went on to have a superb season and be a key player for us in a double winning season.

Where exactly would Isco fit into our formation and team now? Its a position and role we have filled so its a window dressing player we simply don't need.

When Mangala comes in the squad needs to lose a few members, not add others just because some people think we are playing football manager on here. Back in the real world, only 18 can actually wear a kit each week and we are already up near the 25 mark.

Isco's chance to join City, like many others who we chased like Eto'o, Buffon, Alexis Sanchez et al, has come and gone. Moving on is moving forwards, going back to someone who's already spurned you looks rather desperate and we are so far above that level now anyway. Accept the moment has passed and move on.

 

[Centurions]

We've been very lucky with Silva. Despite having a surgically repaired ankle that causes him occasional time on the sideline, he's avoided major injury. We'd be hard pressed to break down stubborn defending if he had an injury like Negredo's.

Nasri is technically a playmaker but he's too inconsistent. I don't think he's on the level of Silva at all. Only Yaya is.

Id have said Nasri was one of our most consistent players last season by a long shot.

 

[Lee the Blue]

We've been very lucky with Silva. Despite having a surgically repaired ankle that causes him occasional time on the sideline, he's avoided major injury. We'd be hard pressed to break down stubborn defending if he had an injury like Negredo's.

Nasri is technically a playmaker but he's too inconsistent. I don't think he's on the level of Silva at all. Only Yaya is.

Id have said Nasri was one of our most consistent players last season by a long shot.

Spot on. Was superb and a key figure for us and should've been one of the player of the year nominees.

 

[bluechampion7891]

We've been very lucky with Silva. Despite having a surgically repaired ankle that causes him occasional time on the sideline, he's avoided major injury. We'd be hard pressed to break down stubborn defending if he had an injury like Negredo's.

Nasri is technically a playmaker but he's too inconsistent. I don't think he's on the level of Silva at all. Only Yaya is.

I agree with this. I also feel that when thing aren't going your way his output is diminished.