I read an article a few years back by a Syrian stuck in Syria between attacks from ISIS and his own government. The gist of his article to the west was 'stick your consciences, stick your good words and do fucking something'.
You have totally ignored my awkward question on Hamas yet getting rid of Hamas is crucial to any progress. Who do the Israelis negotiate with? How on earth can you negotiate with an organisation whose aim is your genocide. And let's not forget that the Palestinian people actually voted for Hamas presumably with full knowledge of their genocidal goal?
I posted before, the GDP of Israel is nearly 20 times that of Palestine!!! Is that Israel's fault? Sometimes you need to be brutally honest and the truth is that the Palestinans have fucked themselves over. They seem to be in permanent victim mode, spend all their money on tunnels and weaponry and the only growth industry is hate. Yes they have had injustice but so has everyone else in the world and we do not go on a baby killing spree complete with home videos and pizza parties to celebrate the massacre.
This does not end without the Palestinians accepting responsibility for their own governments actions and if the Palestinians themselves, the Palestinian supporters, the so called International community and the totally useless UN cannot do anything about Hamas then I think Israel has a right and responsibility to it's own citizens to do something. Remember the words of the Syrian writer 'stick your consciences, stick your good words and do fucking something'.
If I did ignore your question, it wasn’t intentionally so.
I feel I have answered it, in that Hamas do have to be dealt with, but I am stating to you that you cannot separate Gaza from the rest of the occupied territories which is what I believe the Israeli government have wanted all along.
Yes Hamas were voted for but others in here have documented their funding in getting to the position where they could compete with Fatah.
I don’t see a lot wrong with your logic but I don’t see the end game as the same as you do. I see it as much to do with Netanyahu’s own political future on his mind and his parties very right wing aims. What are their goals. In this campaign alone what are their aims.
Hamas are cunts, no doubt. No other conclusion can be drawn for any organisation that carried out what happened on 7th of Oct.
There’s no doubt Gaza has not got an economy worth a damn and they are supposedly in power, but you can’t realistically leave out the fact that there’s a blockade on the area for the past 15 years.
And in the question of security or expansion? Well the hostages families in Israel are asking the same questions. Certainly on the news over here we are seeing families demonstrating against Netanyahu and placing the blame at his door. Saying he has blood on his hands.
How can you get hostages back if they are buried in these tunnels that Hamas have invested the money in, by bombing the hell out of them.
No ceasefire until the hostages are released doesn’t sound like a security plan to me and it not going down well in all of Israel. If unconfirmed reports out of Gaza are correct there could be up to sixty dead already.
Israel have negotiated with Hamas before. Gilad Shalit was released on 18th of October 2011 after being held for 5 years. 1027 Palestinian prisoners were traded for this one soldier.
So yes I do think a pause, a ceasefire, a cessation, whatever you want to call it, is the correct course of action and dialogue is needed for the sake of the hostages that are still alive.
As is said in my first response, what about the bargaining chips. Sorry I meant those interned without trial. Internment without trial? Now where have we heard that before? It caused a bit of bother somewhere closer to home didn’t it. Thank whatever god you believe in, the UK government didn’t pursue the same course of action over here that they are now endorsing in the Middle East.
The US may yet convince Netanyahu to follow a course of action that involves a pause. I openly admit, I do not know what comes after that, but I do think it’s long overdue that an independent honest broker needs to be found that can be trusted by both sides. Simple eh? I told you I don’t know what comes next. But I’m no, Senator George Mitchell.
Don’t forget the GFA involved 8 different parties, three of which were associated with paramilitaries on either side of the conflict.
Where there’s a will there’s a way.
