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Israel.
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Prestwich_Blue said:I'd love to hear you rant at, say, China; one of the worst human rights abusers on the planet. They've occupied Tibet for the last 60 years and done far worse than the Israelis have done on the West Bank. Will they ever give it back to the Tibetans? They openly propr up and politically support even worse regimes like N Korea & Burma. Yet we welcome their leaders with open arms.
Then there's Russia - a mafia controlled country whose leader has killed far more than any Israeli, which murders journalists and has inflicted horrendous cruelties on Chechens. Yet we invited Putin on a state visit in 2003.
Yet all the ire of the liberal and hard left is foicused on Israel, a small and democratic country surrounded by bitter enemies and built on the murder of million Jews less than 70 years ago by a demagogue who blamed them for everything. Seems some things never change.
A very partial and poorly reserached post. I belong to suport groups for both Isreali liberals who are horrified at whta thir own govt is doing and I also belong to Free Tibet. Get your fatcs right rather than lazy soundbiting.
Your last paragraph begs the question about Israel's tactics.
if they know what it's like to be oppressed why are they treating the Palestinian people so badly. Yo can't have it both ways.
If Israel tried complying with international law on for example illegal settlements, they mght just find that international opinion , including some of their neighbours mellowed a bit.
dom said:Prestwich_Blue said:I'd love to hear you rant at, say, China; one of the worst human rights abusers on the planet. They've occupied Tibet for the last 60 years and done far worse than the Israelis have done on the West Bank. Will they ever give it back to the Tibetans? They openly propr up and politically support even worse regimes like N Korea & Burma. Yet we welcome their leaders with open arms.
Then there's Russia - a mafia controlled country whose leader has killed far more than any Israeli, which murders journalists and has inflicted horrendous cruelties on Chechens. Yet we invited Putin on a state visit in 2003.
Yet all the ire of the liberal and hard left is foicused on Israel, a small and democratic country surrounded by bitter enemies and built on the murder of million Jews less than 70 years ago by a demagogue who blamed them for everything. Seems some things never change.
A very partial and poorly eserached post.
Your last paragraph beg the question about Iseal's tactics.
if they kno what it's like to be oppressed why are they treating the Palestinian people so badly. Yo can't have it both ways.
If Isreal tried complying with international law on for example illegal settlements, they mght just find that internatioanl opinion , including some of their neighbours mellowed a bit.
YCNMIU. Just like N.Korea is a democratic country, as i said...
Skashion
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A change in American policy towards Israel will not help in my opinion and it's untenable anyway. The few American presidents who have tried have failed. American domestic support for pro-Israeli politicians coupled with Israel's ability to sustain itself without American aid if needs be, mean that Israel won't bow to the pressure. Israeli politicians are supremely confident in their position as they well should be.
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dom said:Prestwich_Blue said:I'd love to hear you rant at, say, China; one of the worst human rights abusers on the planet. They've occupied Tibet for the last 60 years and done far worse than the Israelis have done on the West Bank. Will they ever give it back to the Tibetans? They openly propr up and politically support even worse regimes like N Korea & Burma. Yet we welcome their leaders with open arms.
Then there's Russia - a mafia controlled country whose leader has killed far more than any Israeli, which murders journalists and has inflicted horrendous cruelties on Chechens. Yet we invited Putin on a state visit in 2003.
Yet all the ire of the liberal and hard left is foicused on Israel, a small and democratic country surrounded by bitter enemies and built on the murder of million Jews less than 70 years ago by a demagogue who blamed them for everything. Seems some things never change.
A very partial and poorly reserached post. I belong to suport groups for both Isreali liberals who are horrified at whta thir own govt is doing and I also belong to Free Tibet. Get your fatcs right rather than lazy soundbiting.
Your last paragraph begs the question about Israel's tactics.
if they know what it's like to be oppressed why are they treating the Palestinian people so badly. Yo can't have it both ways.
If Israel tried complying with international law on for example illegal settlements, they mght just find that international opinion , including some of their neighbours mellowed a bit.
Sums up the situation perfectly mate and echoes what i posted.
Israel practices nothing more than state sanctioned terrorism and the worst of it is that they are backed 100% financially and with arms by the USA. A country at the forefront of a "War against terror"
YRCNMIU!
Skashion said:A change in American policy towards Israel will not help in my opinion and it's untenable anyway. The few American presidents who have tried have failed. American domestic support for pro-Israeli politicians coupled with Israel's ability to sustain itself without American aid if needs be, mean that Israel won't bow to the pressure. Israeli politicians are supremely confident in their position as they well should be.
The Yanks plough absolutely Millions and Millions into Israel Skash, whilst it's own Veterans are on the street begging. There are placement puppets right the way through time in the US govt, all with so called Jewish Ancestry and yes, every single Israeli President have been a member of a Terrorist organisation, that is a fact, so what chance does peace have? You know the answer, SFA.
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lloydie said:Global warming is not a myth. The causes for it, however, are open to debate.
sorry to pinch your thread about Israel buzzer but i have a question about "global warming"
if this is true and not a myth why the fuck can't britain get warm. its always fucking freezing and pissing down with rain, even thoughout the summer?
are'nt we due some warming?
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blueinsa
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Skashion said:A change in American policy towards Israel will not help in my opinion and it's untenable anyway. The few American presidents who have tried have failed. American domestic support for pro-Israeli politicians coupled with Israel's ability to sustain itself without American aid if needs be, mean that Israel won't bow to the pressure. Israeli politicians are supremely confident in their position as they well should be.
$2.76 Billion this year alone mate and the figure is consistently around that level. Dont kid yourself that they dont need it because they do.
Skashion
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buzzer1 said:The Yanks plough absolutely Millions and Millions into Israel Skash, whilst it's own Veterans are on the street begging. There are placement puppets right the way through time in the US govt, all with so called Jewish Ancestry and yes, every single Israeli President have been a member of a Terrorist organisation, that is a fact, so what chance does peace have? You know the answer, SFA.
I have wrote essays on this topic, specifically this topic, the Israeli-American relationship. Don't kid yourself that I don't know what I'm talking about. Also, your post borders on being anti-Jewish here with talk of Jewish ancestry. Leave that shit out.