Issues in Paris again... breaking

[Fame Monster]

You were asking why it's wrong to presume every violent incident in Europe is related to terrorism?

I was joking mate.

We'll have to agree to disagree about our definitions of terrorism because I really cba arguing semantics.

 

[manimanc]

So does Phil Jones.

You rang..

 

[bluethrunthru]

I find it quite sad that some people whom I would consider the usual suspects jump on any incident that could remotely be terror related with relish to vent their views yet other acts pass without comment. For example today a young man was jailed for plotting to amongst other things murder a Labour MP in an act he described as that of a "white jihadist" and he Cumbrian guy a couple of weeks ago who was jailed for planning an attack on a Pride march - oddly these things seems to pass without comment.

 

[Banned Tosspot]

I find it quite sad that some people whom I would consider the usual suspects jump on any incident that could remotely be terror related with relish to vent their views yet other acts pass without comment. For example today a young man was jailed for plotting to amongst other things murder a Labour MP in an act he described as that of a "white jihadist" and he Cumbrian guy a couple of weeks ago who was jailed for planning an attack on a Pride march - oddly these things seems to pass without comment.

Planned attacks Vs actual attacks.

 

[bluethrunthru]

Planned attacks Vs actual attacks.

I realise some get off on the sight of the blood I just find it sad its used as a cover for prejudices

 

[Banned Tosspot]

I realise some get off on the sight of the blood I just find it sad its used as a cover for prejudices

Prejudice to what?

 

[bluethrunthru]

Prejudice to what?

Things

 

[Fame Monster]

any incident that could remotely be terror related

Surely it’s more prejudicial to say that only Islamic extremists can commit terrorism if that’s what you’re getting at. The definition of terrorism in almost all jurisdictions includes people committing violence for political purposes or in disputes with the Government and the fact that this guy wants to talk to the French Government via the Iranian ambassador might be a clue (or equally, it could be a red herring) that he’s a terrorist and that’s the main point that’s been made on this thread. If you’re saying he’s not a terrorist because he’s not doing it for religious purposes then you’ve either got an agenda or simply don’t understand the way that terrorism has historically been defined.

 

[blueparrot]

Surely it’s more prejudicial to say that only Islamic extremists can commit terrorism if that’s what you’re getting at. The definition of terrorism in almost all jurisdictions includes people committing violence for political purposes or in disputes with the Government and the fact that this guy wants to talk to the French Government via the Iranian ambassador might be a clue (or equally, it could be a red herring) that he’s a terrorist and that’s the main point that’s been made on this thread. If you’re saying he’s not a terrorist because he’s not doing it for religious purposes then you’ve either got an agenda or simply don’t understand the way that terrorism has historically been defined.

Not sure can a one off isolated act by someone with a grudge be terrorism, or does terrorism need to be a campaign of terror by a group with political demands.

 

[bluethrunthru]

Surely it’s more prejudicial to say that only Islamic extremists can commit terrorism if that’s what you’re getting at. The definition of terrorism in almost all jurisdictions includes people committing violence for political purposes or in disputes with the Government and the fact that this guy wants to talk to the French Government via the Iranian ambassador might be a clue (or equally, it could be a red herring) that he’s a terrorist and that’s the main point that’s been made on this thread. If you’re saying he’s not a terrorist because he’s not doing it for religious purposes then you’ve either got an agenda or simply don’t understand the way that terrorism has historically been defined.

No - what I am saying is there have been incidences on BM where things that could be terror related be they attacks or planned attacks are jumped on by some and dropped as soon as no ISLAMIC terror angle is exposed......... however when white Christian folk are jailed for planning terror related crimes it somehow doesn't warrant comment.