It's quiet 10, no apologies! (continued)

[tolmie's hairdoo]

I am goin to spring to the defence of Mancio on this one.

We may not have conceded many goals in the league because most teams didn't bother attacking us. They parked the bus and hoped to nick a goal. Most weren't good enough to do so and that's why we have a good defensive record in the premier league.

In europe however it was a different ball game. we were up against more clinical forwards and we also didn't dominate possession in midfield like we do in the league. Barry, Milner etc not quite so effective in this arena.

So as far as I am concerned get RVP if he wants to come and we offload a striker,but he is not the key. If Tevez and Edin want to stay we have a fearsome front 4 as it is.

To improve in europe we need a centre back who can play football. pique for example. Vince is great but he often hoofs it long and inacurately, while Joleon, well its just not his thing.

In midfield we do need someone a bit more cultured.

So if we signed Pique and Sneijder for example i think we'd be almost there as far as Europe is concerned.

Hart
Richards Kompany Pique Clichy
de Jong
Snejder Yaya Silva
Aguero Tevez

Sign Pique and Sneijder and we would be a laughing stock.

A defender who can't defend and a midfielder who can't get it up anymore.

Sneijder isn't fit enough to wipe Nasri's arse, and I am one of Nasri's harshest critics on here.

 

[ayrshire_blue]

Considering FFP I think money could be a lot better spent than 25m on RVP. Sure, he would improve us on what we are now, but I'd rather try and develop Dzeko and Balotelli into the world class players we know they can be than spend 25m on RVP.

I think it would make financial sense for our future if we settled with the already superb options we have up top, and spent that 25m on somewhere we really could improve the squad...bale or Martinez.

It's not like we're settling with Corradi and co ffs, look at what we've got and at that value we don't really need RVP.

Also for those saying we need RVP for champions league experience, how are Dzeko and Balotelli supposed to get that experience sitting on the bench every game? Or do we sell Dzeko to Munich, then buy him back in 4 years time when Bayern develop him into a prolific scorer in Europe for 20 million more than we sell him for this year?

 

[Rammyblues]

TH if RVP does come have you heard who will be leaving, press are linking Dzeko to Bayern is there any truth in that or will be Tevez to go?

Can't see Balotelli leaving while Mancini is in charge or unless he really does lose faith in him.

 

[blue.behind.enemy.lines]

I am goin to spring to the defence of Mancio on this one.

We may not have conceded many goals in the league because most teams didn't bother attacking us. They parked the bus and hoped to nick a goal. Most weren't good enough to do so and that's why we have a good defensive record in the premier league.

In europe however it was a different ball game. we were up against more clinical forwards and we also didn't dominate possession in midfield like we do in the league. Barry, Milner etc not quite so effective in this arena.

So as far as I am concerned get RVP if he wants to come and we offload a striker,but he is not the key. If Tevez and Edin want to stay we have a fearsome front 4 as it is.

To improve in europe we need a centre back who can play football. pique for example. Vince is great but he often hoofs it long and inacurately, while Joleon, well its just not his thing.

In midfield we do need someone a bit more cultured.

So if we signed Pique and Sneijder for example i think we'd be almost there as far as Europe is concerned.

Hart
Richards Kompany Pique Clichy
de Jong
Snejder Yaya Silva
Aguero Tevez

Pique and Sneijder!? are people on crack, or is the new football manager that realistic people are forgetting the difference between the game and reality. Not to mention neither player is what we require and would both break the bank.

 

[Andouble]

I am goin to spring to the defence of Mancio on this one.

We may not have conceded many goals in the league because most teams didn't bother attacking us. They parked the bus and hoped to nick a goal. Most weren't good enough to do so and that's why we have a good defensive record in the premier league.

In europe however it was a different ball game. we were up against more clinical forwards and we also didn't dominate possession in midfield like we do in the league. Barry, Milner etc not quite so effective in this arena.

So as far as I am concerned get RVP if he wants to come and we offload a striker,but he is not the key. If Tevez and Edin want to stay we have a fearsome front 4 as it is.

To improve in europe we need a centre back who can play football. pique for example. Vince is great but he often hoofs it long and inacurately, while Joleon, well its just not his thing.

In midfield we do need someone a bit more cultured.

So if we signed Pique and Sneijder for example i think we'd be almost there as far as Europe is concerned.

Hart
Richards Kompany Pique Clichy
de Jong
Snejder Yaya Silva
Aguero Tevez

Pique and Sneijder!? are people on crack, or is the new football manager that realistic people are forgetting the difference between the game and reality. Not to mention neither player is what we require and would both break the bank.

Football Manager 2007 edition

 

[redmizzle]

I know what youre saying - and we don't seem in a rush to sign anyone that would compliment Edin (fast winger type) but Mario and Carlos as main men for a season leaves me a little nervous !

What about Aguero?
Tevez didn't do too bad as the main man for two seasons running.
Balotelli won't be the main man with Van Persie, Aguero and Tevez ahead of him.

 

[taconinja]

I am goin to spring to the defence of Mancio on this one.

We may not have conceded many goals in the league because most teams didn't bother attacking us. They parked the bus and hoped to nick a goal. Most weren't good enough to do so and that's why we have a good defensive record in the premier league.

In europe however it was a different ball game. we were up against more clinical forwards and we also didn't dominate possession in midfield like we do in the league. Barry, Milner etc not quite so effective in this arena.

I think this is an important point that can easily get lost in the "Who should we bring in?" debate. We had issues in the CL because our defense when presented with a parked bus. Hell, we had a problem with it against QPR. Fortunately our attack was strong enough in the PL to mitigate this.

My feeling is someone like Javi Martinez if we can get him would add that final layer of protection and distribution allowing us to transition better from defense to attack and vice versa. I'm still not 100% sold on Lescott but I would be foolish to not admit he improved a great deal last year.

 

[mancitypj]

I am goin to spring to the defence of Mancio on this one.

We may not have conceded many goals in the league because most teams didn't bother attacking us. They parked the bus and hoped to nick a goal. Most weren't good enough to do so and that's why we have a good defensive record in the premier league.

In europe however it was a different ball game. we were up against more clinical forwards and we also didn't dominate possession in midfield like we do in the league. Barry, Milner etc not quite so effective in this arena.

So as far as I am concerned get RVP if he wants to come and we offload a striker,but he is not the key. If Tevez and Edin want to stay we have a fearsome front 4 as it is.

To improve in europe we need a centre back who can play football. pique for example. Vince is great but he often hoofs it long and inacurately, while Joleon, well its just not his thing.

In midfield we do need someone a bit more cultured.

So if we signed Pique and Sneijder for example i think we'd be almost there as far as Europe is concerned.

Hart
Richards Kompany Pique Clichy
de Jong
Snejder Yaya Silva
Aguero Tevez

Thank god Mancini is our manager because those guys have had their day. We are past those players now.

 

[yayas trusty right foot]

I am goin to spring to the defence of Mancio on this one.

We may not have conceded many goals in the league because most teams didn't bother attacking us. They parked the bus and hoped to nick a goal. Most weren't good enough to do so and that's why we have a good defensive record in the premier league.

In europe however it was a different ball game. we were up against more clinical forwards and we also didn't dominate possession in midfield like we do in the league. Barry, Milner etc not quite so effective in this arena.

So as far as I am concerned get RVP if he wants to come and we offload a striker,but he is not the key. If Tevez and Edin want to stay we have a fearsome front 4 as it is.

To improve in europe we need a centre back who can play football. pique for example. Vince is great but he often hoofs it long and inacurately, while Joleon, well its just not his thing.

In midfield we do need someone a bit more cultured.

So if we signed Pique and Sneijder for example i think we'd be almost there as far as Europe is concerned.

Hart
Richards Kompany Pique Clichy
de Jong
Snejder Yaya Silva
Aguero Tevez

Sign Pique and Sneijder and we would be a laughing stock.

A defender who can't defend and a midfielder who can't get it up anymore.

Sneijder isn't fit enough to wipe Nasri's arse, and I am one of Nasri's harshest critics on here.

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I dont any of them two could hack it in the prem..

 

[rastus]

No to Van, unless we sell 1or 2 of our strikers. Its essential for us to invest in other positions this is a priority and Im sure this will happen

 

[TFC]

RVP would be quality, but you have to have a couple of reservations about his age/durability. That being said, anyone can get injured at any time I suppose.

Whatever improves us as a squad, bring it on. Soon, cos I'm bored out of my f**king mind.

 

[bernabias home shirt]

defense win you CLs , and there is where we are average.

Yeah, Chelsea's defence was far superior to ours last season wasn't it?

it was and it is.

You still got it in for our defence mancio..

What was it you said, joe hart is average and should be sold earlier on the thread...

Your the biggest fucking wum on here!

 

[adrianr]

I am goin to spring to the defence of Mancio on this one.

We may not have conceded many goals in the league because most teams didn't bother attacking us. They parked the bus and hoped to nick a goal. Most weren't good enough to do so and that's why we have a good defensive record in the premier league.

In europe however it was a different ball game. we were up against more clinical forwards and we also didn't dominate possession in midfield like we do in the league. Barry, Milner etc not quite so effective in this arena.

So as far as I am concerned get RVP if he wants to come and we offload a striker,but he is not the key. If Tevez and Edin want to stay we have a fearsome front 4 as it is.

To improve in europe we need a centre back who can play football. pique for example. Vince is great but he often hoofs it long and inacurately, while Joleon, well its just not his thing.

In midfield we do need someone a bit more cultured.

So if we signed Pique and Sneijder for example i think we'd be almost there as far as Europe is concerned.

Hart
Richards Kompany Pique Clichy
de Jong
Snejder Yaya Silva
Aguero Tevez

Agree with the sentiment but strongly disagree with the conclusion, but enough people have told you what a stupid idea buying Pique and Sneijder is so I won't bang on about it :p

Still wish we could prise Sahin away from Real but seems they have long term plans for him and with good reason.

 

[OB1]

Yeah, Chelsea's defence was far superior to ours last season wasn't it?

it was and it is.

You still got it in for our defence mancio..

What was it you said, joe hart is average and should be sold earlier on the thread...

Your the biggest fucking wum on here!

Our defence won us the league. Two years in a row as the best defence is not a fluke. Even when we lost, we were never thumped and it was rare for us to concede more than one goal in a game. The defence has room for improvement but, as TH pointed out, lack of depth is the biggest issue, particularly at centre back. The other issue at CB is that VK & JL are a real partnership where the whole is greater than the sum of the parts and replicating that won't be easy: it's not just about adding another top quality CB.

 

[Robinhosthumb!]

Nothing wrong with our defence,we just need stronger back ups and that would be perfect.

 

[City Raider]

TH seems very perky today! Hope it's a good sign!

 

[taconinja]

RVP would be quality, but you have to have a couple of reservations about his age/durability. That being said, anyone can get injured at any time I suppose.

Whatever improves us as a squad, bring it on. Soon, cos I'm bored out of my f**king mind.

I still insist the problem lies with Arsenal's training program and medical staff. Arsenal players are as brittle as glass, but Clichy and Nasri held up well as has Kolo and Adebayor over the past few years.

 

[Rammyblues]

TH seems very perky today! Hope it's a good sign!

PR exercise keep the troops happy, long way till 31st August with nowt happening. :-)

 

[johnny crossan]

tolm what about the Javy Martinez quotes from the other day?
RVP a good player and would improve the squad but striker doesn't scream priority for us at the moment I'd think.

I agree with this, we scored more goals than anyone last season why do we need to buy a striker ?

You do know I'm not Mancini, don't you?
Martinez's quotes were nothing you would not expect.
If Barcelona are sniffing, we will forget it and move on.

normally yes but I think there are significant financial difficulties for all the Spanish clubs now. Money is also important and I think they will struggle to compete with us.

 

[Rammyblues]

normally yes but I think there are significant financial difficulties for all the Spanish clubs now. Money is also important and I think they will struggle to compete with us.

I really hope you are right on this. :-)