It's Quiet 10 no apologies! (continued)

[twinkletoes]

Marwood is working under direct orders from Khaldoon and Mansour.
It`s not up to Marwood who we sign or don`t.

I cant see Khaldoon or Mansour being involved in choosing players for the squad. That would be kamikaze buying.

You only have to look at the Torres or Shevechenko signings by Chelsea.

Did I say the owners is choosing the players?

Marwood is working under directions from the owners.

Spot the difference.

So who has the ultimate say? Is it Marwood picking the team?

 

[bobmcfc]

I'm on Bobby's side, fuck Marwood, what's he got to do with winning matches.

I'm with you on this.

 

[BillyShears]

I can see why people say he shouldn’t criticise marwood in public. But if this outburst means marwood is pressurised into completing deals for agger and de rossi then would you think the outburst was a good or bad idea? Personally i’m happy for mancini to have a go at marwood if it increases our chances of getting these players.
With mancini there is a motive behind everything he says – he hasn’t done this on a whim or even out of frustration. It’s a tactic to influence things to the outcome he wants.

C'mon, do you honestly believe that Brian Marwood is holding up transfers? Isn't it just a touch more likely that the players that Roberto wants are stupidly expensive and therefore the owners simply aren't sanctioning the deals.

No i’m not saying marwood and marwood alone holds the keys to the safe. But marwood will be working to guidelines set out for him by the owners. What i’m saying is that by mancini pressuring marwood it may well lead to those guidelines being relaxed slightly in order to get the deals done.

Ah I see. Yes I agree with that. My memory is terrible but I do believe that it was within a week or two of similar comments from the gaffer last summer we saw Aguero join us. Whatever the problem i wish it was kept in house, or better still, I wish the owners would just get it resolved.

 

[mcfcphil]

I can see why people say he shouldn’t criticise marwood in public. But if this outburst means marwood is pressurised into completing deals for agger and de rossi then would you think the outburst was a good or bad idea? Personally i’m happy for mancini to have a go at marwood if it increases our chances of getting these players.
With mancini there is a motive behind everything he says – he hasn’t done this on a whim or even out of frustration. It’s a tactic to influence things to the outcome he wants.

He said exactly the same thing last summer about Marwood at a presser.

It might be just his way to stop the reporter asking questions and to deflect the shit, Marwood may well be cool with him taking this approach and we're reading too much in to it?

That thought had crossed my mind. I would love it if this is an elaborate strategy to make it appear there’s friction between marwood and mancini. Marwood on the phone to DDR agent right now “listen, my balls are in a vice – Roberto wants deals done and the owners won’t budge on price. You either take the offer we have made or i’m going to have to move on to other targets. Time has run out.”

 

[St Helens Blue (Exiled)]

Why should Mancini speak about transfers/deals. He is employed to prepare the players for the next match,so ask him questions about that. Marwood is the man who negotiates transfers not Mancini. So Mancini is right in tellng that slimy little shite Cooper when constantly pressed on transfers " Ask Marwood."

It wasn't James the rag cooper on this occasion it was the guy from talk shite who does both city and united

 

[Damanino]

Lavezzi: " Ambitions are equal, I prefer to live in Paris as in Manchester"

 

[LongsightM13]

Groundhog day.
Marwood was pissing around last summer with the Aguero negotiations, among others. The manager was clearly pissed off about it.
In the end, Sheikh Mansour sent Khaldoon over to end the fucking about and close the deal. It was done pretty much straight away.
Over in AD, I can see Khaldoon being asked to clear his diary for next week as we speak . . .

 

[grunge]

Surely it's up to Mancini to win things & to identify the targets in order to keep on winning things (his job), but up to Marwood to use his nouse to find a way to bring them in (his job).

One of the two (not Mancini) is clearly not performing.

Sure, that could mean that he has to move players on first in order to balance the books, but it's not as if that is being done either.

Thing is that, like it or not, Adebayor & RSC (for example), will not be here on 1st September. So why not accept that fact and get rid of them now - in order to allow us to go after our targets - rather than hold on hoping for some angel to pay a transfer fee for them (which isn't going to happen) ?

Mancini has made this move, IMO, as HE is the man in power at the club at the moment. If he wasn't performing then he wouldn't be. Hopefully his 'balls out' power move will unblock a couple of situations (but I very much doubt that any of them will involve Agger due to him not being likely to be eligible for European competition).

While I have no love for Marwood I do feel sorry for him in this case, Its not his fault Paltini and the uefa cronies have bought in FFPR and that is having a major impact on our business.

We have no free funds to bring in new players and due to paying a lot for the players like Ade/Roque/Bridge so no one would poach them from us, we are now experiencing the opposite side of the coin and cant get rid of them now we want too.

Personally I believe we should have taken the hit and terminated the contracts of all unwanted players before FFPR monitoring periods kicked in and we wouldnt be in this position now as we would have the space on the salary budget. Its what Chelsea have done this season, there salary levels will probably be the same as they were but have spent big in a single hit, which while bad for FFPR its not as bad as having a long term salary issue.

If its as tight as I see it we'll just have to blood some youngsters in the cups like Arsenal do and then use the 1st team squad for EPL and CL only. It will be a tight few years until we start to become self sufficient and for the academy to start kicking out high quality graduates year in year out.

 

[nmc]

It's impossible to know who our targets were and what our transfer strategy was at the end of May but it was unlikely to have been - lets sit tight until after the Euro's and the Olympics and then let's move for Scott Sinclair! I think we have had targets like RVP but for a host of reasons, maybe transfer fees, agent fees or an inability to free up wages from players we want to move on - but none of Mancini's A list have been secured - who knows they may be in the next couple of weeks. Again we will never know but you have to wonder whether Bobby wanted Ibra or Silva? All academic now but he's clearly concerned that business has not been done.

 

[bernabias home shirt]

Marwood is working under direct orders from Khaldoon and Mansour.
It`s not up to Marwood who we sign or don`t.

I cant see Khaldoon or Mansour being involved in choosing players for the squad. That would be kamikaze buying.

You only have to look at the Torres or Shevechenko signings by Chelsea.

Did I say the owners is choosing the players?

Marwood is working under directions from the owners.

Spot the difference.

Exactly.

Marwood will have to run everything past the sheiks.
Fuckall to do with marwood.