It's Quiet 10 no apologies! (continued)

[BobKowalski]

I have some sympathy for Marwood's position given he is no doubt acting within the brief he has been given but his competence within that brief is being questioned by Mancini

Are you happy Mancini is unhappy?

In that I want Mancini in a constant state of relentless desire to keep pushing the club on and improving then yes I am happy he is unhappy.

A Mancini content with standing still is not a Mancini I want at the club.

Not that Mancini is the type to settle for second best anyway so its all a bit moot

 

[johnny crossan]

I have some sympathy for Marwood's position given he is no doubt acting within the brief he has been given but his competence within that brief is being questioned by Mancini

Are you happy Mancini is unhappy?

In that I want Mancini in a constant state of relentless desire to keep pushing the club on and improving then yes I am happy he is unhappy. A Mancini content with standing still is not a Mancini I want at the club. Not that Mancini is the type to settle for second best anyway so its all a bit moot

me too!

 

[mcfcphil]

Are you happy Mancini is unhappy?

In that I want Mancini in a constant state of relentless desire to keep pushing the club on and improving then yes I am happy he is unhappy. A Mancini content with standing still is not a Mancini I want at the club. Not that Mancini is the type to settle for second best anyway so its all a bit moot

me too!

i agree with this. In such a pressuring environment i think tension can often be a good thing

 

[BobKowalski]

Don't you think that this type of public airing of the club's dirty laundry is completely unnecessary? If the gaffer doesn't like Marwood or doesn't rate him then he needs to take that up with the owners. If the owners, which they seem to have done, disagree with him, he should surely just get on with things.

Its irrelevant what you or I think. As I said earlier Mancini will not sit there like Ancelotti did paying lip service to the idea that he is happy with the clubs transfer dealings. Mancini is no different to Mourinho or Benitez who throw there toys out of the pram or play politics in the media when it suits them.

Mancini will woman, moan and be a total pain in the arse until he gets what he wants or most of what he wants. Its one of the reasons why we are PL Champions. If the club doesn't like it then they shouldn't offer 5 year contracts.

Why not woman and moan behind the scenes, that's my question? If it is more effective to woman and moan in public then you must accept that our owners aren't as great and clever as we think they are - because if they were then whether he moaned publicly or privately their reaction would be the same.

I have no doubt he does woman and moan behind the scenes. Bitching and moaning to the media helps him increase the pressure on the club and Marwood until something gives. Mourinho for example does the same.

Mancini isn't interested in letting the mistakes of the past cloud the future whereas the club is concerned about the mistakes of the past and rectifying them so they have differing perspectives and agenda.

 

[Danamy]

People here suggesting that getting rid of assets with high wages is an easy thing to do! Why should Wayne Bridge do anything other than look at his contract and expect that the club meet it - not his fault he's too crap to be picked by Bobby!

In all seriousness, we're showing an element of naivety in trying to understand how the footy transfer business works. I'm sure lots of fans feel frustrated; how must the 'Pool fans feel re Carrol?

I didn't say it wasn't hard. It is his job to do it though and he isn't, is he? If I go into work and I'm not up to the challenges of the job then everyone is just supposed to shrug and not care?

That's the problem though

Marwood would happily just give the players away if he could but he can't do that, he's got to work within stringent guidelines set out from above.

 

[Johnny_on]

Here's why i think the argument that we have got to get rid of the deadwood first doesn't work.

If we signed Cavani tomorrow, the idea is that the other clubs would know we are desperate to offload the others and take advantage of that.

BUT

That its exactly the problem we have now anyway, before we sign anyone. They know we cant move in the transfer market until we get rid of them, so Spurs can take the piss with Adebayor etc AND selling clubs (Napoli in this case) can wait until deadline day and charge what they want.

We have to accept its like that, we got ourselves into that position.

Moving early with the our targets coming IN would've give us more time to line up more clubs for the OUTs... The only way we could've got Spurs to move quicker is by saying he's going somewhere else in 2 weeks unless you act now.

Now we are a looking at the clock, and starting the season less prepared, so Mancini is pissed off.

Sounds fair to me.

 

[Mancio]

People here suggesting that getting rid of assets with high wages is an easy thing to do! Why should Wayne Bridge do anything other than look at his contract and expect that the club meet it - not his fault he's too crap to be picked by Bobby!

In all seriousness, we're showing an element of naivety in trying to understand how the footy transfer business works. I'm sure lots of fans feel frustrated; how must the 'Pool fans feel re Carrol?

I didn't say it wasn't hard. It is his job to do it though and he isn't, is he? If I go into work and I'm not up to the challenges of the job then everyone is just supposed to shrug and not care?

That's the problem though

Marwood would happily just give the players away if he could but he can't do that, he's got to work within stringent guidelines set out from above.

seems mancini think marwood can't only becouse he is an useless inept.

 

[BillyShears]

I have no doubt he does woman and moan behind the scenes. Bitching and moaning to the media helps him increase the pressure on the club and Marwood until something gives. Mourinho for example does the same.

You seem to have ignored my point. Would you not acknowledge that our owners aren't going to be too concerned with gaffer's public proclamations of dissatisfaction if he is indeed saying the same things privately. We're going round in ever decreasing circles here. I see no good reason for him to be publicly being so snide about Brian Marwood to the point where he said in the press conference he's not happy with the management set up at the club. Dare I say it, it is just a touch ungrateful with the amount of money which has been spent at the manager's behest since he came on board.

Mancini isn't interested in letting the mistakes of the past cloud the future whereas the club is concerned about the mistakes of the past and rectifying them so they have differing perspectives and agenda.

That's a nice way of saying he doesn't give a shit about how much a player costs, or how much the players already at the club are costing, he just wants what he wants. It's pretty clear the owners have little intention of giving him what he wants this summer. Time will tell who was correct.

 

[johnny crossan]

...It's pretty clear the owners have little intention of giving him what he wants this summer.....

time for your next appointment yet?

 

[mike channon´s windmill]

...Now we are a looking at the clock, and starting the season less prepared, so Mancini is pissed off. Sounds fair to me.

especially now Agger is cup tied

-- Fri Aug 10, 2012 2:18 pm --

...It's pretty clear the owners have little intention of giving him what he wants this summer.....

time for your next appointment yet?

Really? Thought you are only cup-tied if it´s the same competition