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The problem here is that you only watch our games judiciously. But none of the others around us. So to understand whether it is easy to get at us, you'd have compare it to how easy it is to get at the other 5 teams in the top six. It is this gap in the average fan's knowledge that stats help with.

If on average teams create less chances against us than most in the top five, and our possession stats are similar, then we are doing things ok defensively. Even if you can point to problematic instances you remember. What the stats is saying is that other teams have those instances too, and not necessar

No modes individually gives us the whole picture. So stating one mode doesn't only serves to attempt to undermine it.

By stating what the stats say, I'm not suggesting it tells us everything. So a retort that it doesn't tell us everything is redundant. Unless the purpose of the retort is to undermine the point being highlighted by reference to the stats.

For the most part almost no one has a full picture of what every team in the league is doing at the same time. So to judge more accurately in comparison to each other, using curated stats is a by far better approach than guesing. Which frankly is what we do when we say our defense is bad and Chelsea's is good. We conclude this by noting what we've seen of our defense, and compare that to our guess about Chelsea based on conceding fewer goals.

Now if a curated stat shows that over the season we've conceded fewer chances than say Chelsea, or even similar chances, but yet conceded disproportionately higher number of goals. Someone responding with "stats doesn't show everything" is simply using that line to discredit a curated fact you could only have deduced from either watching both teams judiciously (not just one) or examining their stats side by side.

Since almost no one here watches all the teams judiciously and if you or @simon23 do then I apologize. But if my assumption is right that like me you watch more City games judiciously and the other teams for entertainment. Then a statistical comparison is a way better barometer of the truth than either of our opinions drawn from just watching our team and making educated guesses about the others.

Thus, the fact that stats doesn't show us everything is irrelevant if it shows us more than our guesses and assumptions.

You've come on so much since the 'pivot' days mate ;)
 
Evening all! Being a lazy bastard who doesn't want to read through all the pages any new juicy info from tolm?
Yeah, TH says perm any two from 3 of Sanchez, Mbappe and/or Griezman
Brings about complete change of tune from 'well known' posters who previously dissed anyone saying such combinations could work. Such is the power of TH ;-)
 
Yeah, TH says perm any two from 3 of Sanchez, Mbappe and/or Griezman
Brings about complete change of tune from 'well known' posters who previously dissed anyone saying such combinations could work. Such is the power of TH ;-)

Cheers mate! Sounds like it's going to be a massive (ahem) summer!
 
If we're spending the sort of money this suggests, does anyone think Alli, Bale and two full backs would improve us more than Sanchez and Mbappe and two full backs?
No, Bale has regressed massively since his injury, Alli is a brilliant player and I would have him but I don't think he'll fit our free-8 system.
 
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