It's Quiet - a new dawn

[Centurions]

Pep in January said in a press conference that the only reason he couldn't get thrown into the first team was because he didn't have expereince playing in front of proper crowds in high stakes games, unlike the youth players Pep had from Barcelona who played in the Spanish 3rd division.

So Maffeo goes off and gets (more) experience playing in high stakes games in a promotion race, does really well, and the response from Guardiola and co. is to sign Jesus Navas as our back up RB next year.

If the club isn't saying Maffeo's got no future here, then I imagine his agent soon will be because he's done exactly what was asked and they've blocked him off again.




Why are we the only team in world football that needs kids to have 5 loans in the very top divisions in European football before they get a chance?

Tom Davies didn't need a loan, Marcus Rashford didn't need a loan, Alex Iwobi didn't need a loan, Trent Alexander-Arnold didn't need a loan, Josh Onoma and Harry Winks didn't need loans.

Maffeo has had two successful loans, and now he apparently needs a third.

Beckham needed a loan, Deli Alli needed a loan, Harry Kane needed 4 of them. What's your point?

The 19 year old Maffeo has had just 2 half season loans, he'll be part of the first team squad next season.

 

[domalino]

Beckham needed a loan, Deli Alli needed a loan, Harry Kane needed 4 of them. What's your point?

The 19 year old Maffeo has had just 2 half season loans, he'll be part of the first team squad next season.

Maffeo will be 20 when he returns. Everybody knows he's been ready to play for at least a year. That's the point. Pep said all he needed was experience equivalent to Barcelona's youth players, and he's got that. That's the point.

And why would he want to be part of the first team squad next season? Pep already said this season he couldn't play a kid in front of a senior player like Zabaleta or Sagna, so next season he won't play him ahead of Navas. So he can hang about and do sod all like Tosin? well it's definitely a good way to run his contract down while ensuring he leaves for free.

We're talking about a scenario where a clearly ready kid is being overlooked in a time when both senior players in his position are leaving, and instead of getting a chance, we've signed a 31 year old winger to play ahead of him. That's the point.

Also Dele Alli didn't "need a loan", he's been playing first team football since 16.

 

[Tugay One Cup]

Dele Alli was purchased from MK Dons in February by Spurs and simply loaned back to MK Dons for the remainder of the season. Not exactly a case of Spurs needing to send him on loan to develop him.

 

[Saddleworth2]

Maffeo will be 20 when he returns. Everybody knows he's been ready to play for at least a year. That's the point. Pep said all he needed was experience equivalent to Barcelona's youth players, and he's got that. That's the point.

And why would he want to be part of the first team squad next season? Pep already said this season he couldn't play a kid in front of a senior player like Zabaleta or Sagna, so next season he won't play him ahead of Navas.

We're talking about a scenario where a clearly ready kid is being overlooked in a time when both senior players in his position are leaving, and instead of getting a chance, we've signed a 31 year old winger to play ahead of him. That's the point.

Also Dele Alli didn't "need a loan", he's been playing first team football since 16.

But if Maffeo returns next season he will have a chance to compete for a place. If Navas is the only competition, the boy will get plenty game time (if he is strong enough).

 

[Centurions]

Dele Alli was purchased from MK Dons in February by Spurs and simply loaned back to MK Dons for the remainder of the season. Not exactly a case of Spurs needing to send him on loan to develop him.

Yeah, I read that one wrong, I actually thought he came up through Spuds youth system. The rest of it still stands though.

 

[domalino]

But if Maffeo returns next season he will have a chance to compete for a place. If Navas is the only competition, the boy will get plenty game time (if he is strong enough).

You mean like how Tosin had a chance to compete with Kolarov for a place at Centre-back?

 

[Saddleworth2]

You mean like how Tosin had a chance to compete with Kolarov for a place at Centre-back?

Then maybe the boy is not better than Kolorov at centre back? Tosin trains with the first team, so has had every chance. If he looked a better option in training than Kolo or Ota, Pep would have played him.

 

[Tugay One Cup]

Yeah, I read that one wrong, I actually thought he came up through Spuds youth system. The rest of it still stands though.

Easily done. I don't really know much about the Beckham situation as I was pretty young at the time but sure, certain young players need loan moves.

I'd say Patrick Roberts was certainly one of them and it's done him a world of good. Pablo Maffeo however always stood out and had the opportunity to be integrated into this team naturally with the decline and injuries of our established right backs.

I hope I'm wrong but it just feels inevitable.

 

[Tugay One Cup]

But if Maffeo returns next season he will have a chance to compete for a place. If Navas is the only competition, the boy will get plenty game time (if he is strong enough).

The problem is that it wouldn't just be Navas who Maffeo would be competing with. We're almost certainly going to sign a right back of first team quality.

 

[domalino]

Then maybe the boy is not better than Kolorov at centre back? Tosin trains with the first team, so has had every chance. If he looked a better option in training than Kolo or Ota, Pep would have played him.

Yeah, that's the other part of youth development that's completely unique to Manchester City.

Teenagers have to immediately be better than seasoned international players before they get a hint of a chance.

I doubt Harry Winks looked like Spurs best midfielder before Pochettino gave him his chance, he still isn't, but he does have 30 appearances this season.