It's Quiet Thread 15 - Txiki Blinders

[Shaelumstash]

Got to be off your head if you think Bernardo is better then Grealish .


He’s got no end product, grealish will be the Dave silva replacement we thought Bernardo was befor he turned into a James Milner

Haha

 

[Phil1]

Ha....so you think that makes it wrong...its called a difference of opinon...I happen to think that Bernardo Silva who has won multiple titles/awards etc is a better player that Jack Grealish....you clearly think otherwise....I was onyl posting in opposition to the point that someone made that one season worth of stats show that Grealish is better...I say that doesnt show he is better overall
For the record an as Ive said before I think Grealish is a good player - nothing more however.

I've argued that Bernardo is a better player myself but the truth is this version of Bernardo that we've seen for 18 months probably isn't.
It's not a big deal, players grow stagnent and nobody can deny that he's a shadow of the lad we signed.
There will be a myriad of reason why that's the case but a hungry Jackmeister chomping at the bit is likely to offer us more next season if he signs.
In my humble opinion. I could have used IMHO but Bernardo deserves more respect than that. I'll be sad to see him go if he does indeed choose to do so.

 

[Phil1]

Got to be off your head if you think Bernardo is better then Grealish .


He’s got no end product, grealish will be the Dave silva replacement we thought Bernardo was befor he turned into a James Milner

I know you love to be contrary and I know you post a lot of stuff to ruffle feathers but if the Jackmeister comes close to Bernardo best days with us then we will be doing OK.

 

[bluesince76]

Yer Da thinks Grealish should get his hair cut and wear some proper socks and shinpads

I'm now my Da

Good player, but those shin pads wind me right up...

 

[nellyonthewing]

I wonder if the job of running round like a blue arsed fly has finally got Bernardo down.

 

[andyhinch]

I know you love to be contrary and I know you post a lot of stuff to ruffle feathers but if the Jackmeister comes close to Bernardo best days with us then we will be doing OK.

I’ll be reserving judgment until he’s been to the barbers personally ;-)

 

[Phil1]

I’ll be reserving judgment until he’s been to the barbers personally ;-)

Of course, goes without saying.

 

[Shaelumstash]

Some odd posts here today. Everyone clearly a little bored!

Kane in comparison to Aguero is about the best replacement we could get. He already has a relationship with Foden, Sterling, Stones and Walker. You can run off him due to his creativity or you can cross or play him through and he will score. He is a pretty complete footballer when you look at his goals and assists. And due to that, he is an ideal player for Pep and also gives us a plan B because we can go more direct to him if we are chasing a game late on.

Grealish and Bernardo comparisons are slightly harder to draw on. The one major advantage in my opinion is his pace. Bernardo's close control, technique and passing is excellent but usually it's his constant running and tenacity we applaud. If he does want to leave, Grealish is a damn good replacement. Got the same tenacity but has more pace and more of a goal/assist contribution.

I think people are also forgetting that Pep generally improves players and Grealish could skyrocket under his tutelage and Kane could get even better too. Bernardo for whatever reason hasn't produced the numbers he maybe should in our side, but I do bloody love him.

I genuinely think this “numbers” thing has got a bit ridiculous tbh.

How many assists did Colin Bell get? How about Maradona? Fuck knows.

“Assists” only started getting reported on in about 1994 when the Telegraph started recording them for the inaugural Fantasy League season.

Before then, creative players were judged on how well they played. How intelligent their passing was. Being the last person to touch the ball before the goalscorer wasn’t really relevant.

But now people are obsessed with “the numbers”. I couldn’t tell you “the numbers” David Silva got. Or Zidane got. Or Xavi got. Grealish maybe got better numbers last season. But I can tell you from watching them who were the better players.

 

[Larry Stranger]

Did you watch any of monaco’s game when he was playing with them ?
Are you going to consider he has been asked to do different job ?

Can't say that I watched them much and not going to doubt he was good in that team. I don't know how Monaco played week in and week out, but I can't imagine they dominated the ball like us and came across low blocks as much as we do. I'd venture to guess we play differently to them. Pep talks about how good Dave was in tight spaces. The ability to play a 1 touch pass that frees our forwards was underrated. Bernardo can dribble well and shoot better than Dave, but in the tight spaces shots gets blocked a lot. Bernardo can put in a decent cross, but so can a lot of our players.

The point still stands that if Pep thought he was the best creator next to KDB he would have had him do that instead of a different job and have others do the dirty work.

 

[chesterbells]

My honest opinion and will probably get dogs abuse but I think bernardo is twice the player grealish is. He is the most over hyped English player in a long time, think he will end up here and I hope I'm proven wrong but I don't get what all the fuss is about.

That’s certainly an opinion, no doubt about it.