January defenders

We need a third quality CB in January as there is no guarantee Stones or Laporte will be back, the lad Ruben Dais looks as though he could do the job as does Konate but Dais has a buyout clause we can afford and a wage demand that suits us better than De Ligt and Maguire the players we were gazumped on .
As for the two youth players, until they have done a year at a Championship club, where we can gauge their ability in a league we know they will stay kids
 
salfordbluetrue said:
We need a third quality CB in January as there is no guarantee Stones or Laporte will be back, the lad Ruben Dais looks as though he could do the job as does Konate but Dais has a buyout clause we can afford and a wage demand that suits us better than De Ligt and Maguire the players we were gazumped on .
As for the two youth players, until they have done a year at a Championship club, where we can gauge their ability in a league we know they will stay kids
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Sorry, that is just not right, which championship clubs will let them calmly stroke the ball about at the back like we want them to learn and have them doing in practice every day?
Plus the fact we have the most horrendous record of loaning players out to the wrong clubs.
 
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We had 90% of posters in the transfer thread screaming about the lack of a central defender coming in, nearly all of those were desperate to bring in De Ligt or Maguire at any costs in the majority of cases.

Now we’ve seen both of those, including one “generational talent” in De Ligt having mixed to poor starts at their new clubs, hopefully we can stop this new shiny toy will fix all our problems instantly bullshit.

Whoever we buy has to be the right player at the right time, for the right price, otherwise walk away and wait for the central defensive equivalent of Rodri.
 
bluealf said:
Sorry, that is just not right, which championship clubs will let them calmly stroke the ball about at the back like we want them to learn and have them doing in practice every day?
Plus the fact we have the most horrendous record of loaning players out to the wrong clubs.
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Leeds who play a style very similar to us Fulham who always try to play football Reading Brentford and Bristol also,, you say City have a poor record of loans i say the opposite Tosin Muric ooth Garcia`s Angelino and Maffeo all left City and found their level, players leaving City and going to a championship club are the easiest to gauge as we know that level, the simple truth is if we loaned out both our youngsters to Leeds they would not get a game, and that is true with every premiership club as well
 
salfordbluetrue said:
Leeds who play a style very similar to us Fulham who always try to play football Reading Brentford and Bristol also,, you say City have a poor record of loans i say the opposite Tosin Muric ooth Garcia`s Angelino and Maffeo all left City and found their level, players leaving City and going to a championship club are the easiest to gauge as we know that level, the simple truth is if we loaned out both our youngsters to Leeds they would not get a game, and that is true with every premiership club as well
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Muric is already dropped, not sure who ooth is lol Manu Garcia's went on loan and never came back, Angelino went on loan and left and then was bought back, MAffeo went on loan and was sold, how are these examples of great loans for kids to get in our first team?

Along with all the other 100's of loans.

One youth hasn't gone out on loan and is in and around the first team training and getting some minutes and crucially learning how to play in the way Pep wants = Foden

Zinchenko the one exception, his loan was awful but he got into the team through injuries in an alien position and through hard work and willingness to learn has impressed Pep enough to be given a chance and a new contract.

If Garcia and THB go out on loan they will not be playing with world class players and that is the difference when being integrated into a team like Citys or for example see Arnald at LFC.
For me Otamendi is making mistakes all over the place, Stones has gone to pot due to injuries and his fucking shagging about which has made him a mistake monster, we may as well partner one of the boys with Fernie and or then Laporte on his return, we have nothing to lose, due to the others already making the mistakes you will claim the youth will no doubt have in them.

Both of those boys will be better than Ake and Mings but not unless we give them quality time with world class players.

Maybe I am biased as I would love to see us start harvesting our youth from here on in, the final piece of the jigsaw, there will still be a place for top draw signings
 
Oh you are right with those teams but will those teams with a strong desire for the prem be willing to trust a young loan defender over somebody they have bought, again look at Muric, looked quality for us in the cups but a couple of novice errors and Forrest couldn't wait to get him out of the team.
 
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