If Laporte recovers I can't see City buying any central defenders. Garcia and Harwood_Bellis look very good to me. Take your point that they need to develop but I think by next season they will be very close. Garcia is close to the first team.
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ChicagoBlue
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Sorry, mate, can’t be arsed debating the issues, especially when you stretch my words, so this is my last word. You’re welcome to yours without rebuttal.Oh that hurt, personalty i thought your putting 2 youngsters in the first team ` a necessity with bans and injuries` a bad idea, you remember what happened the last time we put youngsters in at CB. Savic and Nastasic have both fully developed now and are playing very well,
But City will buy because we did go in for De Ligt and Maguire and circumstances have become more critical, oh by the way the lad at Fiorentina was very good yesterday obviously he is playing first team football regularly and is commanding his defence
I merely showed you there are 6 CBS in the First Team squad and gave you 3 pairs of players...4 always in contention and the two youngsters getting minutes every now and then. And, if you think Garcia isn’t ready, I think Pep disagrees.
As for De Ligt & Maguire, you have no idea if we made bids for these players, only paper talk. Otamendi was considered in the outs, so who knows? However, City have made it clear they are being fiscally conservative (FFP?), but will always have money for one or two key (world class) players every year. With Laporte, Stones, Otamendi, plus Fernandinho and Rodri, we don’t even have to be concerned about the younger players, but every year (esp at this age) their growth and progression is logarithmic. If Ota is on the outs, then we may well be in for someone, but we have other needs.
Additionally, it is much harder to buy the VERY SPECIFIC TYPE OF PLAYER Pep likes in the January window, and it may well be that City are waiting for a Sané sale to balance the books for their spending wishes.
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You mention we have other needs, I personally feel that CB is a need at the moment. I’m curious to know what you think are our needs?Sorry, mate, can’t be arsed debating the issues, especially when you stretch my words, so this is my last word. You’re welcome to yours without rebuttal.
I merely showed you there are 6 CBS in the First Team squad and gave you 3 pairs of players...4 always in contention and the two youngsters getting minutes every now and then. And, if you think Garcia isn’t ready, I think Pep disagrees.
As for De Ligt & Maguire, you have no idea if we made bids for these players, only paper talk. Otamendi was considered in the outs, so who knows? However, City have made it clear they are being fiscally conservative (FFP?), but will always have money for one or two key (world class) players every year. With Laporte, Stones, Otamendi, plus Fernandinho and Rodri, we don’t even have to be concerned about the younger players, but every year (esp at this age) their growth and progression is logarithmic. If Ota is on the outs, then we may well be in for someone, but we have other needs.
Additionally, it is much harder to buy the VERY SPECIFIC TYPE OF PLAYER Pep likes in the January window, and it may well be that City are waiting for a Sané sale to balance the books for their spending wishes.
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I have no idea whether city will buy even if Laporte does not recover before January, but we did try in the summer, the January market has a number of advantages for us, none of the big clubs are after a CB, there is no ability of clubs auctioning players, we can assess how well a player is actually playing, and we can take from clubs in need of cash, Milenkovic is an example, for me he is playing a similar standard to Laporte admittedly Italian clubs are hard to deal with but?If Laporte recovers I can't see City buying any central defenders. Garcia and Harwood_Bellis look very good to me. Take your point that they need to develop but I think by next season they will be very close. Garcia is close to the first team.
If we sign a 3rd choice CB in January we will go into the summer probably needing a backup goalie, to replace Bravo a backup CB to replace Ottamendi, a backup CDM to replace Delph, a backup attacking player to replace Silva, it is not beyond imagination that all these players come from our academy because of our strength in depth
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Centre forward, left wing, central midfield.You mention we have other needs, I personally feel that CB is a need at the moment. I’m curious to know what you think are our needs?
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I’d agree with the midfielder but wouldn’t say 2 new forward players when we already have 5 (6 if you include Sané) for 3 positions? I do think we need one more though if Sané goes (which seems likely)Centre forward, left wing, central midfield.
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Injury to Aguero or Jesus and we are light. In addition, in a year or two, Aguero is done. Need to find the forward, bed him in, and teach him we are not like the team he is coming from. No passengers allowed!I’d agree with the midfielder but wouldn’t say 2 new forward players when we already have 5 (6 if you include Sané) for 3 positions? I do think we need one more though if Sané goes (which seems likely)
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I agree aguero needs replacing but it’s a difficult one to bed someone in when we already have 2 players that deserve to be starting in the position and then a potential third, I feel it would have to be someone capable of playing all across the front 3 to give fair game time within a bedding in period anyway this is a topic for another threadInjury to Aguero or Jesus and we are light. In addition, in a year or two, Aguero is done. Need to find the forward, bed him in, and teach him we are not like the team he is coming from. No passengers allowed!
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None.
The team already has Otamendi, Stones, Fernandinho & Rodri to fill during the absence of Laporte.
I think even Walker can play there.
The team already has Otamendi, Stones, Fernandinho & Rodri to fill during the absence of Laporte.
I think even Walker can play there.
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Werner can either play LW or striker, scores a ton but is young enough to get better, gives us that counter-attacking option and is available for only 30mil. Jonathan Tah, could maybe get for the 40mil mark. Another top CB (not sure who, sorry) for 60mil.I agree aguero needs replacing but it’s a difficult one to bed someone in when we already have 2 players that deserve to be starting in the position and then a potential third, I feel it would have to be someone capable of playing all across the front 3 to give fair game time within a bedding in period anyway this is a topic for another thread
If Sane leaves for around the 100mil mark, and Otamendi leaves, I think we could easily recoup enough to strengthen in key areas whilst having top-class talent. With our attacking fullbacks, maybe a 352 would work wonders.
Get what your saying but have to admit our defence looks shaky as hell without Laporte. Now we are one of the biggest teams in the world looking at winning the title again and the champions league and to lose just one centre half and we are struggling with that loss is not good at all . Laporte is as big too us as VVd is too Liverpool so it’s a massive loss probably worse than de bruyne last season.None.
The team already has Otamendi, Stones, Fernandinho & Rodri to fill during the absence of Laporte.
I think even Walker can play there.
We are not counter-attacking side so Werner doesn't suit us well. He is too limited.Werner can either play LW or striker, scores a ton but is young enough to get better, gives us that counter-attacking option ...
We need someone with pace AND outstanding technical ability.
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Reality check, any player at City can play CB, most of them badly, Milenkovic is playing better than any CB at City at this moment, can anyone say that will not be the case come the end of the season? personally if we do go for one in January i think it will be the lad from Benfica as he has a release clause that may tempt us
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Kristoffer Ajer? cheap and can be a very good player in future.
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Sorry, mate, can’t be arsed debating the issues, especially when you stretch my words, so this is my last word. You’re welcome to yours without rebuttal.
I merely showed you there are 6 CBS in the First Team squad and gave you 3 pairs of players...4 always in contention and the two youngsters getting minutes every now and then. And, if you think Garcia isn’t ready, I think Pep disagrees.
As for De Ligt & Maguire, you have no idea if we made bids for these players, only paper talk. Otamendi was considered in the outs, so who knows? However, City have made it clear they are being fiscally conservative (FFP?), but will always have money for one or two key (world class) players every year. With Laporte, Stones, Otamendi, plus Fernandinho and Rodri, we don’t even have to be concerned about the younger players, but every year (esp at this age) their growth and progression is logarithmic. If Ota is on the outs, then we may well be in for someone, but we have other needs.
Additionally, it is much harder to buy the VERY SPECIFIC TYPE OF PLAYER Pep likes in the January window, and it may well be that City are waiting for a Sané sale to balance the books for their spending wishes.
Interestingly, Sam Lee in the Athletic says that City did go in for Maguire and had agreed terms with the player in the summer, we just baulked at paying what Leicester were after.
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Thank goodness for their greed - dodged another bullet I feelInterestingly, Sam Lee in the Athletic says that City did go in for Maguire and had agreed terms with the player in the summer, we just baulked at paying what Leicester were after.
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Interestingly, Sam Lee in the Athletic says that City did go in for Maguire and had agreed terms with the player in the summer, we just baulked at paying what Leicester were after.
Slightly off topic, but I love the word baulked, it really gets its message across. Whenever I hear it it makes me think of someone being sick at being asked to do something.
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We need a CB.Laporte came to City in January. Van Dijk joined Liverpool in January, so why not sign a CB now and not wait for the summer? Maybe he'll make the difference in the league? Maybe he will help us win the Champions League
We really need to buy a top defender ASAP.
January is tough but let’s make it happen. The number one trait should be leadership imo. Then of course ball playing and defensive ability.
Right now our CB situation is terrible.
Otamendi- not a leader, 32 in a few months and mistake prone.
Stones- not a leader, weak mentally, weak defensively, hasn’t progressed much in his time hear.
Laporte- top quality, currently injured obviously but not sure he’s a leader tbh
E.Garcia and THB- two great talents but simply too young and inexperienced right now.
Fernandinho- doing his best at CB but he is a world class DM and we are losing that but playing him in defense.
let’s splash the cash and buy a top CB.
January is tough but let’s make it happen. The number one trait should be leadership imo. Then of course ball playing and defensive ability.
Right now our CB situation is terrible.
Otamendi- not a leader, 32 in a few months and mistake prone.
Stones- not a leader, weak mentally, weak defensively, hasn’t progressed much in his time hear.
Laporte- top quality, currently injured obviously but not sure he’s a leader tbh
E.Garcia and THB- two great talents but simply too young and inexperienced right now.
Fernandinho- doing his best at CB but he is a world class DM and we are losing that but playing him in defense.
let’s splash the cash and buy a top CB.
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After yesterday's game we would be crazy not to get a defender to pair with Laporte either in January or in the summer. It crazy how average our side looks without Laporte not in it and that's a massive worry going forward because every time he's injured this is going to be the same outcome, how can this club not have the best defenders going instead of one great defender and and the rest average. This has to be our main goal in the nxt transfer market