Javi Garcia

[The Flash]

It's funny how THFC0161 was ridiculed for posting stats that 'proved' Spurs and and Spurs players were the bestest ever, despite what the physical evidence of your own eyes told you, and yet there are Garcia apologists within our own ranks doing exactly the same thing.

Please, can one of you do a pie chart that will disprove that Javi Garcia is nothing more than high-socked show pony that trots about as the game passes him by?

Thanks.

 

[Damocles]

Why would you judge a ball retaining defensive midfielder by his number of assists?

Vincent Kompany on has 2 key passes this season aswell, I think we should sack him.<br /><br />-- Sat Jan 04, 2014 8:27 pm --<br /><br />

It's funny how THFC0161 was ridiculed for posting stats that 'proved' Spurs and and Spurs players were the bestest ever, despite what the physical evidence of your own eyes told you, and yet there are Garcia apologists within our own ranks doing exactly the same thing.

Please, can one of you do a pie chart that will disprove that Javi Garcia is nothing more than high-socked show pony that trots about as the game passes him by?

Thanks.

You see this is the thing, nobody is doing anything of the sort. I posted stats that directly contradicted what people said. I made absolutely no comment about how you interpret those stats.

This is the problem with statistics in football, only about 3 people actually understand how they are used and what they actually tell you.

 

[The Flash]

Why would you judge a ball retaining defensive midfielder by his number of assists?

Vincent Kompany on has 2 key passes this season aswell, I think we should sack him.

A defensive midfielder, in my opinion, needs to be able to read the game and tackle opponents.

Garcia does neither.

 

[Berkovic_blue]

He is fucking shit and no amount of stats telling me he has managed to hit a 3 yard pass sideways or backwards now and then will tell me otherwise.

Stats prove nothing, you watch football with your eyes and this guy makes them bleed!

They do when people whose eyes don't work claim he never EVER makes a forward pass.

I'm not even defending him as I don't rate him as a player but it always makes me laugh when people make ridiculous claims that are so easily disproved then cry about stats being meaningless. There's a lot of posters on here who either have extremely poor eyesight or at the least only see what they want to see, it makes their opinions pretty much worthless.

 

[zandvoort blue]

Why would you judge a ball retaining defensive midfielder by his number of assists?

Vincent Kompany on has 2 key passes this season aswell, I think we should sack him.

-- Sat Jan 04, 2014 8:27 pm --

It's funny how THFC0161 was ridiculed for posting stats that 'proved' Spurs and and Spurs players were the bestest ever, despite what the physical evidence of your own eyes told you, and yet there are Garcia apologists within our own ranks doing exactly the same thing.

Please, can one of you do a pie chart that will disprove that Javi Garcia is nothing more than high-socked show pony that trots about as the game passes him by?

Thanks.

You see this is the thing, nobody is doing anything of the sort. I posted stats that directly contradicted what people said. I made absolutely no comment about how you interpret those stats.

This is the problem with statistics in football, only about 3 people actually understand how they are used and what they actually tell you.

???

 

[bluemc1]

So a lot of today's comments are unsupported and actually disproven? That's traditional for this thread.

what isn't unsupported or disproven is the fact we smash teams going for CL places and titles without him in the team and struggle to score against or beat sides fighting relegation with him in it, offers FUCK ALL and the things he is meant to be good at aren't worth a wank, the stats people post on him making most passes and shit like that are a joke, well it tels me what a negative impact he has on the team, if someone can make THAT many passes and not a single one of them is a ball that would lead directly to a goal that takes some doing,

bayern. nuff said

show me the City side and United side that played in the 50 year Munich game that we won away and will that prove those players playing for us that day were good enough ? nuff said

 

[nomorethaksintimes]

You might not be able to tell if a player is world class based on a YouTube highlights video but you can certainly tell if they aren't anything special.

I remember having a gander when we signed him from Benfica and the majority of his highlights reel was 10 yard passes. If the EDS can't produce a limited squad player to replace someone on Garcia's wages (yes I know he's on half of what Barry was on) - then I don't think it bodes well for the future success of our youth policy.

 

[blueinsa]

He is fucking shit and no amount of stats telling me he has managed to hit a 3 yard pass sideways or backwards now and then will tell me otherwise.

Stats prove nothing, you watch football with your eyes and this guy makes them bleed!

They do when people whose eyes don't work claim he never EVER makes a forward pass.

I'm not even defending him as I don't rate him as a player but it always makes me laugh when people make ridiculous claims that are so easily disproved then cry about stats being meaningless. There's a lot of posters on here who either have extremely poor eyesight or at the least only see what they want to see, it makes their opinions pretty much worthless.

I'm not crying mate, far from it.

As for my opinion being worthless? Maybe it is but it doesn't change it and my opinion is he is fucking rubbish.

 

[MCC]

Javi is clearly average and why we paid all that money for him is baffling. Who's idea was it? Didi Hamann was much better in the shielding role when he came to us as a pensioner. Don't get me started on letting Gaz Baz go and keeping Javi. If we can upgrade this window we should do.

 

[Berkovic_blue]

He is fucking shit and no amount of stats telling me he has managed to hit a 3 yard pass sideways or backwards now and then will tell me otherwise.

Stats prove nothing, you watch football with your eyes and this guy makes them bleed!

They do when people whose eyes don't work claim he never EVER makes a forward pass.

I'm not even defending him as I don't rate him as a player but it always makes me laugh when people make ridiculous claims that are so easily disproved then cry about stats being meaningless. There's a lot of posters on here who either have extremely poor eyesight or at the least only see what they want to see, it makes their opinions pretty much worthless.

I'm not crying mate, far from it.

As for my opinion being worthless? Maybe it is but it doesn't change it and my opinion is he is fucking rubbish.

Is that really what you think? That's only the 3rd time you've said it now lol.

And yes, when someone says something like "he never makes a forward pass" I do consider their opinion worthless. I don't even need stats for that though, I can see it with my own eyes.