Joe Hart (continued)

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George Hannah said:
quiet_riot said:
Skashion said:
Remember the Spurs game at the start of that season? One of the best keeping performances I've seen.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sP4L-VUn_hs[/youtube]
Just make sure you mute it!


Fuck me we got battered that game. IIRC, we only had one decent chance, which SWP should've buried.

it's been downhill ever since he swapped that 25 for the number 1 shirt!

Wow. That save from Defoe!

Bale's form since his new ears has been good, but I can't help thinking Joe played better with his old Barnet and when he played mostly in his own 6 yard box!
 
Re: joe hart

WNRH said:
Dzeko doesn't score he gets lambasted.

Hart loses us points after points and everyone wants him back in goal to make more mistakes.

What's the difference? This situation is the same as everyone else, you don't play well you are out of the team and you will need a lucky break to get back in it. Why is Joe Hart getting the exception?
I don't get this either,he needs to earn his way back,he's been awful for a long time now.It's not a break,he's been dropped !
 
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WNRH said:
Dzeko doesn't score he gets lambasted.

Hart loses us points after points and everyone wants him back in goal to make more mistakes.

What's the difference? This situation is the same as everyone else, you don't play well you are out of the team and you will need a lucky break to get back in it. Why is Joe Hart getting the exception?

Dzeko doesn't get lambasted for not scoring his overall game gets lambasted, his touch, work rate, pace, positioning, strength, passing....
 
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WNRH said:
Dzeko doesn't score he gets lambasted.

Hart loses us points after points and everyone wants him back in goal to make more mistakes.

What's the difference? This situation is the same as everyone else, you don't play well you are out of the team and you will need a lucky break to get back in it. Why is Joe Hart getting the exception?

Well said,
 
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WNRH said:
Dzeko doesn't score he gets lambasted.

Hart loses us points after points and everyone wants him back in goal to make more mistakes.

What's the difference? This situation is the same as everyone else, you don't play well you are out of the team and you will need a lucky break to get back in it. Why is Joe Hart getting the exception?


Going on your logic YaYa should not play in our next match then? The difference between GKs & outfield players is that there is usually a GK or another team mate to 'rescue' the outfield from their mistake.

This is not a Panty out post. Just a treat them all the same post. If they don't play well then give them a rest whoever they are.
 
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If Dzeko has a bad game he gets dropped to the bench. The next game (or perhaps the one after that) he'll be brought on after 60-70 mins and given an early opportunity to re-claim his place in the team. If Dzeko doesn't play, its quickly obvious whether his replacement is playing better or worse than he was and deserves to stay in the team.

It doesn't work that way for keepers. Hart isn't going to be given 20-30 min appreances. Pantilimon has played three games but we're none the wiser yet has to whether he is the better goalkeeper.

In theory goalkeepers should be treated the same as outfield players, compete to prove who is the best player. In reality its more difficult.
 
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The problem for any keeper we play is we are so dominant for most games that they hardly get a chance to show their worth.By the same token every mistake is highlighted more.

An inferior keeper at a club not so good will get plenty of shots and headers to save in a game,therefore if he makes a mistake it doesn't appear as bad because everyone remembers the blinder he had before he made it more than the error.

Our injuries in defense and playing a different system has left our keeper more exposed than in previous years,that being said teams are still not having a massive amount of chances against us, but when they do they are usually one on one or such meaning we conceed.

The mark of a world class keeper is he keeps his concentration and when called upon pulls of the breathtaking save that keeps us in,or wins us the match.Joe was doing it in the title winning season but now those times he has been called on this season he is conceeding.When that happens,such is the amount of work our keeper has to do most games,an average keeper would probably be of just as much use and would percentage wise save a few too.
 
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for some reason loads of people are saying recall Hart for spurs game, why? Has a 2 week break from city made everyone forget why he was dropped? It was for a reason, and to hopefully allow him to recapture his best form in the future, not just to make a statement
 
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If he has a blinder against Germany tomorrow and has worked hard at City in training my feeling is he will be recalled.
 
Re: joe hart

mansour's tow ropes said:
for some reason loads of people are saying recall Hart for spurs game, why? Has a 2 week break from city made everyone forget why he was dropped? It was for a reason, and to hopefully allow him to recapture his best form in the future, not just to make a statement

Agreed. He comes back when his confidence is back and his training and performances demand his inclusion and not before.

He will be one of the worlds best and it will be for us and this is a lesson he will learn from.
 

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