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Joe Hart (continued)
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forevermancity
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Re: joe hart
exactly, its a bit like dropping aguero, because he hasn't scored for 5 matches in a row for devante cole. when back to his best, aguero displaces cole.
when Joe is back to his best, he displaces pants
Rolee said:whp.blue said:I think Pants should and will keep his place against Spurs and until he drops a few clangers
Why anyone expects Hart to be treated any different from Pants beggers belief.
Pants has waited for his chance and Hart must do the same end of
Why does it beggar belief? Hart has proven himself more than capable at this level, Pants hasn't.
exactly, its a bit like dropping aguero, because he hasn't scored for 5 matches in a row for devante cole. when back to his best, aguero displaces cole.
when Joe is back to his best, he displaces pants
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by the same rule Hart has made lots of costly blunders Pants hasn't
how come hart was given the chance to prove himself once but Pants seem not to deserve that same chance
Hart may never get back to his best Pants is a City player just as much as Hart and surely he should be given the same chance ?
Rolee said:whp.blue said:I think Pants should and will keep his place against Spurs and until he drops a few clangers
Why anyone expects Hart to be treated any different from Pants beggers belief.
Pants has waited for his chance and Hart must do the same end of
Why does it beggar belief? Hart has proven himself more than capable at this level, Pants hasn't.
by the same rule Hart has made lots of costly blunders Pants hasn't
how come hart was given the chance to prove himself once but Pants seem not to deserve that same chance
Hart may never get back to his best Pants is a City player just as much as Hart and surely he should be given the same chance ?
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I hear what you're saying but Hart must have some credit in the bank for 3 brilliant seasons ( before last season) as our number 1.
The reason I think Mancini and Pellegrini persevered with him through his run of bad form is because they know what he's capable of.
The same faith can't really be put in Pantillimon when he hasn't proven himself, yet.
So, harsh as it may be, they will be treated differently.
whp.blue said:Rolee said:whp.blue said:I think Pants should and will keep his place against Spurs and until he drops a few clangers
Why anyone expects Hart to be treated any different from Pants beggers belief.
Pants has waited for his chance and Hart must do the same end of
Why does it beggar belief? Hart has proven himself more than capable at this level, Pants hasn't.
by the same rule Hart has made lots of costly blunders Pants hasn't
how come hart was given the chance to prove himself once but Pants seem not to deserve that same chance
Hart may never get back to his best Pants is a City player just as much as Hart and surely he should be given the same chance ?
I hear what you're saying but Hart must have some credit in the bank for 3 brilliant seasons ( before last season) as our number 1.
The reason I think Mancini and Pellegrini persevered with him through his run of bad form is because they know what he's capable of.
The same faith can't really be put in Pantillimon when he hasn't proven himself, yet.
So, harsh as it may be, they will be treated differently.
Re: joe hart
yeah sure that's why platt said that if mancini was here now he will have gone for begovic and sold hart...mancini knew what was going on with hart...and please take off your glass for a second you only want him back even if he will make another mistake is because he is english this is why..why pants should be dropped???? what has he done wrong?? NOTHING!!!!! atm pants is nr1 is hart want back his place nedd to fight hard for that until then in my opinion pelle need to keep pants in the net
Rolee said:whp.blue said:Rolee said:Why does it beggar belief? Hart has proven himself more than capable at this level, Pants hasn't.
by the same rule Hart has made lots of costly blunders Pants hasn't
how come hart was given the chance to prove himself once but Pants seem not to deserve that same chance
Hart may never get back to his best Pants is a City player just as much as Hart and surely he should be given the same chance ?
I hear what you're saying but Hart must have some credit in the bank for 3 brilliant seasons ( before last season) as our number 1.
The reason I think Mancini and Pellegrini persevered with him through his run of bad form is because they know what he's capable of.
The same faith can't really be put in Pantillimon when he hasn't proven himself, yet.
So, harsh as it may be, they will be treated differently.
yeah sure that's why platt said that if mancini was here now he will have gone for begovic and sold hart...mancini knew what was going on with hart...and please take off your glass for a second you only want him back even if he will make another mistake is because he is english this is why..why pants should be dropped???? what has he done wrong?? NOTHING!!!!! atm pants is nr1 is hart want back his place nedd to fight hard for that until then in my opinion pelle need to keep pants in the net
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What has his nationality got to do with anything? I'm a paddy, so no skin off my nose where the international scene is concerned.
I never said Pants did anything wrong or that he should be dropped. All I'm saying is that Hart and Pants will be treated differently because one has proven he has what it takes and the other hasn't.
MihaiCity said:Rolee said:whp.blue said:by the same rule Hart has made lots of costly blunders Pants hasn't
how come hart was given the chance to prove himself once but Pants seem not to deserve that same chance
Hart may never get back to his best Pants is a City player just as much as Hart and surely he should be given the same chance ?
I hear what you're saying but Hart must have some credit in the bank for 3 brilliant seasons ( before last season) as our number 1.
The reason I think Mancini and Pellegrini persevered with him through his run of bad form is because they know what he's capable of.
The same faith can't really be put in Pantillimon when he hasn't proven himself, yet.
So, harsh as it may be, they will be treated differently.
yeah sure that's why platt said that if mancini was here now he will have gone for begovic and sold hart...mancini knew what was going on with hart...and please take off your glass for a second you only want him back even if he will make another mistake is because he is english this is why..why pants should be dropped???? what has he done wrong?? NOTHING!!!!! atm pants is nr1 is hart want back his place nedd to fight hard for that until then in my opinion pelle need to keep pants in the net
What has his nationality got to do with anything? I'm a paddy, so no skin off my nose where the international scene is concerned.
I never said Pants did anything wrong or that he should be dropped. All I'm saying is that Hart and Pants will be treated differently because one has proven he has what it takes and the other hasn't.
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Re: joe hart
+1MihaiCity said:Rolee said:whp.blue said:by the same rule Hart has made lots of costly blunders Pants hasn't
how come hart was given the chance to prove himself once but Pants seem not to deserve that same chance
Hart may never get back to his best Pants is a City player just as much as Hart and surely he should be given the same chance ?
I hear what you're saying but Hart must have some credit in the bank for 3 brilliant seasons ( before last season) as our number 1.
The reason I think Mancini and Pellegrini persevered with him through his run of bad form is because they know what he's capable of.
The same faith can't really be put in Pantillimon when he hasn't proven himself, yet.
So, harsh as it may be, they will be treated differently.
yeah sure that's why platt said that if mancini was here now he will have gone for begovic and sold hart...mancini knew what was going on with hart...and please take off your glass for a second you only want him back even if he will make another mistake is because he is english this is why..why pants should be dropped???? what has he done wrong?? NOTHING!!!!! atm pants is nr1 is hart want back his place nedd to fight hard for that until then in my opinion pelle need to keep pants in the net
whp.blue
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not sure I agree with your Three year comment
During them three years Hart was criticized for his poor distribution and piss poor ability to command his area
Fans on here defended him by stating he was young and would get better
when time has proven in reality he has gotten worse much worse
His distribution is still well below his piers his command of his box is still woeful and to add to that his shot stopping has deserted him
hart is only regarded so highly as he is viewed as Englands number one keeper and whilst this still may be true there is a massive caveat
English keepers have never been so poor in fifty years so Hart is in fact the best of a very bad bunch
Hart is no longer the Best keeper in Manchester let alone England he may well be the best English keeper but we don't actually need an English keeper at City and he has used up all of his lives at City Pants needs to be backed and given his chance or we will never be able to hold onto a number 2 keeper who would be good enough to replace a number one
then what do we do if our number one is ruled out for months through serious injury?
Rolee said:whp.blue said:Rolee said:Why does it beggar belief? Hart has proven himself more than capable at this level, Pants hasn't.
by the same rule Hart has made lots of costly blunders Pants hasn't
how come hart was given the chance to prove himself once but Pants seem not to deserve that same chance
Hart may never get back to his best Pants is a City player just as much as Hart and surely he should be given the same chance ?
I hear what you're saying but Hart must have some credit in the bank for 3 brilliant seasons ( before last season) as our number 1.
The reason I think Mancini and Pellegrini persevered with him through his run of bad form is because they know what he's capable of.
The same faith can't really be put in Pantillimon when he hasn't proven himself, yet.
So, harsh as it may be, they will be treated differently.
not sure I agree with your Three year comment
During them three years Hart was criticized for his poor distribution and piss poor ability to command his area
Fans on here defended him by stating he was young and would get better
when time has proven in reality he has gotten worse much worse
His distribution is still well below his piers his command of his box is still woeful and to add to that his shot stopping has deserted him
hart is only regarded so highly as he is viewed as Englands number one keeper and whilst this still may be true there is a massive caveat
English keepers have never been so poor in fifty years so Hart is in fact the best of a very bad bunch
Hart is no longer the Best keeper in Manchester let alone England he may well be the best English keeper but we don't actually need an English keeper at City and he has used up all of his lives at City Pants needs to be backed and given his chance or we will never be able to hold onto a number 2 keeper who would be good enough to replace a number one
then what do we do if our number one is ruled out for months through serious injury?
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Re: joe hart
Platt didn't say that, so why get facts on the way of a good joe bashing eh
MihaiCity said:Rolee said:whp.blue said:by the same rule Hart has made lots of costly blunders Pants hasn't
how come hart was given the chance to prove himself once but Pants seem not to deserve that same chance
Hart may never get back to his best Pants is a City player just as much as Hart and surely he should be given the same chance ?
I hear what you're saying but Hart must have some credit in the bank for 3 brilliant seasons ( before last season) as our number 1.
The reason I think Mancini and Pellegrini persevered with him through his run of bad form is because they know what he's capable of.
The same faith can't really be put in Pantillimon when he hasn't proven himself, yet.
So, harsh as it may be, they will be treated differently.
yeah sure that's why platt said that if mancini was here now he will have gone for begovic and sold hart...mancini knew what was going on with hart...and please take off your glass for a second you only want him back even if he will make another mistake is because he is english this is why..why pants should be dropped???? what has he done wrong?? NOTHING!!!!! atm pants is nr1 is hart want back his place nedd to fight hard for that until then in my opinion pelle need to keep pants in the net
Platt didn't say that, so why get facts on the way of a good joe bashing eh
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How is any goalkeeper or player supposed to prove himself if he never gets a decent run?
Pantilimon has done well and hasn't made a mistake, so he is proving himself. Until he starts making mistakes or letting in soft goals then he should and will remain our no.1 goalkeeper.
Rolee said:MihaiCity said:Rolee said:I hear what you're saying but Hart must have some credit in the bank for 3 brilliant seasons ( before last season) as our number 1.
The reason I think Mancini and Pellegrini persevered with him through his run of bad form is because they know what he's capable of.
The same faith can't really be put in Pantillimon when he hasn't proven himself, yet.
So, harsh as it may be, they will be treated differently.
yeah sure that's why platt said that if mancini was here now he will have gone for begovic and sold hart...mancini knew what was going on with hart...and please take off your glass for a second you only want him back even if he will make another mistake is because he is english this is why..why pants should be dropped???? what has he done wrong?? NOTHING!!!!! atm pants is nr1 is hart want back his place nedd to fight hard for that until then in my opinion pelle need to keep pants in the net
What has his nationality got to do with anything? I'm a paddy, so no skin off my nose where the international scene is concerned.
I never said Pants did anything wrong or that he should be dropped. All I'm saying is that Hart and Pants will be treated differently because one has proven he has what it takes and the other hasn't.
How is any goalkeeper or player supposed to prove himself if he never gets a decent run?
Pantilimon has done well and hasn't made a mistake, so he is proving himself. Until he starts making mistakes or letting in soft goals then he should and will remain our no.1 goalkeeper.