Joe Hart (continued)

Tim of the Oak said:
nmc said:
Blue Haze said:
I hope we have good competition for him next season. He looked so average today.

What did he do wrong? The goals weren't Joe's fault.

The goals weren't Joe's fault I agree.

However, he takes the piss with those Head n Shoulders adds that are hard viewing particularly when we've been knocker out of the World Cup.

Joe comes across as being a little bit greedy to say the least.

Completely irrelevant to his ability as a footballer. He's the best we have by a distance.

Famous folk get paid to advertise product shocker. Good luck to him.
 
Lavinda Past said:
Tim of the Oak said:
nmc said:
What did he do wrong? The goals weren't Joe's fault.

The goals weren't Joe's fault I agree.

However, he takes the piss with those Head n Shoulders adds that are hard viewing particularly when we've been knocker out of the World Cup.

Joe comes across as being a little bit greedy to say the least.


Joe's just a thick English footballer. You can't blame the lad for taking the chance to make a few more quid - His agent will be the one pulling the strings.

He did OK tonight. He can hold his head high when he comes home.

Fair enough Lavinda Past. I suspect Joe needs a new agent though, even if he has to forego the odd lucrative advert.
 
Lavinda Past said:
Tim of the Oak said:
nmc said:
What did he do wrong? The goals weren't Joe's fault.

The goals weren't Joe's fault I agree.

However, he takes the piss with those Head n Shoulders adds that are hard viewing particularly when we've been knocker out of the World Cup.

Joe comes across as being a little bit greedy to say the least.


Joe's just a thick English footballer. You can't blame the lad for taking the chance to make a few more quid - His agent will be the one pulling the strings.

He did OK tonight. He can hold his head high when he comes home.

So you know him do you?
 
Whatever anyone says about Joe Harts World Cup he hasn't conceded any goals that he would have been expected to save. Don't forget he has had a back four of Johnson, Cahill, Jagielka and Baines in front of him and Henderson and Gerrard as 'defensive midfielders'. Of those six only Cahill would secure a place in the City line up. Maybe he's not world class, but he is the best English keeper by far.
 
Tim of the Oak said:
nmc said:
Blue Haze said:
I hope we have good competition for him next season. He looked so average today.

What did he do wrong? The goals weren't Joe's fault.

The goals weren't Joe's fault I agree.

However, he takes the piss with those Head n Shoulders adds that are hard viewing particularly when we've been knocker out of the World Cup.

Joe comes across as being a little bit greedy to say the least.

if someone came up to you offering you a small fortune for a days work recording a shitty advert would you turn it down? A footballers career isn't that long and you could get perma crocked at any minute so I don't blame him filling his pockets while he can.
 
RandomJ said:
Tim of the Oak said:
nmc said:
What did he do wrong? The goals weren't Joe's fault.

The goals weren't Joe's fault I agree.

However, he takes the piss with those Head n Shoulders adds that are hard viewing particularly when we've been knocker out of the World Cup.

Joe comes across as being a little bit greedy to say the least.

if someone came up to you offering you a small fortune for a days work recording a shitty advert would you turn it down? A footballers career isn't that long and you could get perma crocked at any minute so I don't blame him filling his pockets while he can.

he signed a contract with a global firm procter & gamble which covers a vast product range Gillette being one of them + head and shoulders which I bet wasn't mentioned at the signing of the contract
 
Lavinda Past said:
Tim of the Oak said:
nmc said:
What did he do wrong? The goals weren't Joe's fault.

The goals weren't Joe's fault I agree.

However, he takes the piss with those Head n Shoulders adds that are hard viewing particularly when we've been knocker out of the World Cup.

Joe comes across as being a little bit greedy to say the least.


Joe's just a thick English footballer. You can't blame the lad for taking the chance to make a few more quid - His agent will be the one pulling the strings.

He did OK tonight. He can hold his head high when he comes home. Free in the knowledge that his scalp isn't itchy and remains dandruff free

I'll just be glad to see him and the rest of our players back uninjured.
 
I thought he should have read Suarez' second corner better after he tried swerving it in the first time.

Joe is a top keeper but he makes some decisions at times which make you scream, "what are you doing".

He definitely needs decent competition next season otherwise he will go backwards in my opinion, Caballero would be my choice but he is a very good goalkeeper and it wouldn't surprise me to see Pellegrini picking him as first choice.

I am not overly convinced Hart will ever produce that form he showed two or three seasons ago and I ask the question, has he peaked too soon?
 
sam-caddick said:
I thought he should have read Suarez' second corner better after he tried swerving it in the first time.

Joe is a top keeper but he makes some decisions at times which make you scream, "what are you doing".

He definitely needs decent competition next season otherwise he will go backwards in my opinion, Caballero would be my choice but he is a very good goalkeeper and it wouldn't surprise me to see Pellegrini picking him as first choice.

I am not overly convinced Hart will ever produce that form he showed two or three seasons ago and I ask the question, has he peaked too soon?
Got to agree with Sam . His concentration levels are still poor .
 
sam-caddick said:
I thought he should have read Suarez' second corner better after he tried swerving it in the first time.

Joe is a top keeper but he makes some decisions at times which make you scream, "what are you doing".

He definitely needs decent competition next season otherwise he will go backwards in my opinion, Caballero would be my choice but he is a very good goalkeeper and it wouldn't surprise me to see Pellegrini picking him as first choice.

I am not overly convinced Hart will ever produce that form he showed two or three seasons ago and I ask the question, has he peaked too soon?

It's taboo to criticise Joe too much on here, but I pretty much agree. Joe is a very good keeper, but he was close to being a world class keeper a few years ago and all the legendary keepers like Buffon were full of praise for him (now they praise the likes of Courtois and De Gea more). Now he isn't really near world class, which is odd because keepers (like wine) are supposed to improve with age.

He still strikes me as tentative and not confident enough (despite appearances). His shot stopping is still pretty good, like his incredible save against Everton, but he's kind of flaky. Also too hesitant with his distribution, often taking too long when the very best are quick and confident with their distribution which can often lead to a breakaway. He's by far the best English goalkeeper, but I don't think he ranks among the best in the world.

And yes, as I've been saying in the transfer forum, I really hope we get a strong challenger for him, thereby not only keeping him on his toes and motivated to improve, but to have someone good to step in if Joe does lose form again (which cannot be ruled out after last season). Caballero or K. Navas would be perfect (Ochoa looks good too but unlike the aforementioned, I haven't seen much of him for his club so have no idea how good he really is), but if we can't fit in another foreigner then its a problem because I'm not sure any British/homegrown goalkeeper is good enough to push him (maybe Cardiff's).

I think his nationality helps him a lot. If he was Spanish or Argentine, his position would be under more scrutiny, but the homegrown rule makes that unthinkable. So we at least need a quality #2.
 

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