Neither did Caballero against Dortmund. Atleast 3-4 times he passed straight to opposition forwards in pre-season and the Sunderland match. Caballero (no better than Hart) is staying but a club legend and England No.1 is leaving. It's hard to take that when he hasn't been given enough opportunity and time to adapt.
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Joe Hart (joined Torino on season long loan - Official)
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Neither did Caballero against Dortmund. Atleast 3-4 times he passed straight to opposition forwards in pre-season and the Sunderland match. Caballero (no better than Hart) is staying but a club legend and England No.1 is leaving. It's hard to take that when he hasn't been given enough opportunity and time to adapt.
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The 1 who said Ter-Stegen was signed?
Yeah that's the one
But Caballero did v Arsenal, Joe did not.Neither did Caballero against Dortmund. Atleast 3-4 times he passed straight to opposition forwards in pre-season and the Sunderland match. Caballero (no better than Hart) is staying but a club legend and England No.1 is leaving. It's hard to take that when he hasn't been given enough opportunity and time to adapt.
I would prefer Joe to stay and learn under Pep, he will be a better player for it. I do not see that happening.
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So if Joes style is wrong and his attitude is bad there's still no justifying him being dropped?
That sounds like exactly the kind of justification normally used in cases like this.
No, he hasn't had a chance, so it's unjustified. Caballero isn't in the same league as Hart, so when someone better comes along, drop him then.
I was hoping this was maybe Pep testing Joe's reaction to being dropped, giving him a wake up call, but you have to say it looks increasingly like the end for him. Really ruthless and harsh imo.
Not for Joey's ego.
Maybe, but that's a given in any case. All top teams in the PL have good goal keepers. Even at Everton he will have competition and is a also a step-down for him without European football. Joe loves the club. So, I assume he would try and fight for his place against Bravo rather than jump ship to mid-table teams in the PL.
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Because Willy is willing to try and do as he is instructed.Neither did Caballero against Dortmund. Atleast 3-4 times he passed straight to opposition forwards in pre-season and the Sunderland match. Caballero (no better than Hart) is staying but a club legend and England No.1 is leaving. It's hard to take that when he hasn't been given enough opportunity and time to adapt.
I'm not sure how many more times this can be explained in this thread.
Pep doesn't mind players making mistakes if following his orders, he won't put up with players ignoring instruction. No matter who they are or how important they think they are.
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Been to many training sessions have you?No, he hasn't had a chance, so it's unjustified. Caballero isn't in the same league as Hart, so when someone better comes along, drop him then.
I was hoping this was maybe Pep testing Joe's reaction to being dropped, giving him a wake up call, but you have to say it looks increasingly like the end for him. Really ruthless and harsh imo.
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Will be gutted if Joe goes. For me, he optimizes Manchester City - he gets us, get's the fans and I think he's one of the only players who has genuine feelings for the club. Good, bad or ugly he's also the first player over applauding away fans after the game. And on top of this, he's actually an outstanding goalkeeper - yes, he has his flaws and yes he makes errors but for us blues, that watch him week in week out, we know how good he is and at the age of 29, i think he'll only get better. That being said, we have to trust Pep and his philosophy, if he thinks Joe can't do what he needs to be successful then I'm (reluctantly) happy with that. If he thinks we need Bravo to play the way he wants to win, I'm happy with that as well. It'll hurt seeing Joe in another clubs shirt but MCFC is bigger than any one player. One thing I will say is it's now our time to play hard ball. If Everton want him, we tell them he's £40-£50mil and we don't budge - I'm sick of clubs taking the piss out of us when we want their players so let's turn it on it's head.
Youve no idea what's gone on behind the scenes. You keep going on about Caballero not being in the same league as Joe but you're basing that on the role of a traditional goalkeeper. Of course Hart is better. That doesn't make him automatically the right choice. There's several factors to be considered and as things stand being a better keeper on paper doesn't cut it.No, he hasn't had a chance, so it's unjustified. Caballero isn't in the same league as Hart, so when someone better comes along, drop him then.
I was hoping this was maybe Pep testing Joe's reaction to being dropped, giving him a wake up call, but you have to say it looks increasingly like the end for him. Really ruthless and harsh imo.
Ruthless I agree, harsh, not so much.
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Of course not, he hasn't had a chance to show him what he can do in competitive football.Been to many training sessions have you?
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