Joe Hart (joined Torino on season long loan - Official)

[Credo]

Because Willy is willing to try and do as he is instructed.

I'm not sure how many more times this can be explained in this thread.

Pep doesn't mind players making mistakes if following his orders, he won't put up with players ignoring instruction. No matter who they are or how important they think they are.

Exactly

 

[blueonblue]

Willies total summation here would be "Saved a few penalties", he is not within a country mile of Hart an never will be.
Hart has won us games galore because he made saves bordering on world class on a regular basis, Pep needs to have a f*cking word with himself.

 

[PistonBlue]

No, he hasn't had a chance, so it's unjustified. Caballero isn't in the same league as Hart, so when someone better comes along, drop him then.

I was hoping this was maybe Pep testing Joe's reaction to being dropped, giving him a wake up call, but you have to say it looks increasingly like the end for him. Really ruthless and harsh imo.

How do you know he hasn't had a chance? How do you know Pep and Joe haven't had chat about things, have you been to private training sessions?

Managers have preferences for certain players, those they're not keen on get sold. It's no different to say Mangala getting the boot or Bony or anyone else. This is a big decision granted, but managers are paid to make big decisions and given our manager's track record I am more than happy to back him in this. I honestly don't understand the tears overs this.

 

[IanBishopsHaircut]

I don't think Willy was picked ahead of Joe because he is any better than him or is able to implement Pep's style either.

I think it was to make his intent clear that he doesn't want Joe as Number 1

 

[IcriedwhenTueartleft]

I don't think Willy was picked ahead of Joe because he is any better than him or is able to implement Pep's style either.

I think it was to make his intent clear that he doesn't want Joe as Number 1

Oh don't talk sense young man, you'll spoil all that pretentious/know it all guff from SWP and Pablo1 about not following instructions etc etc etc

 

[Phil1]

Pep needs to have a f*cking word with himself.

He has, and decided that Joe isn't going to be his goalkeeper. Crowd favourite or not, there's a reason why Pep is regarded the best in the business.

 

[Phil1]

Oh don't talk sense young man, you'll spoil all that pretentious/know it all guff from SWP and Pablo1 about not following instructions etc etc etc

Aww, bless.
You say pretentious guff when all it is is an opinion based on what I've seen Peps team do in the past. I've always been respectful to Hart and have made it clear I'd love to see him stay several times.
The fact is this is a crowd favourite who from the outside it looks like he's being treated harshly. We don't know the ins and outs so have to guess at what's happening. I saw the writing on the wall as did several others and it looks like coming true. I'm not happy that Hart looks like he could be moving on, I appreciate everything he's done for us. I'm a City fan first and foremost though and if a manager who we've been courting for 6 years feels it can't work then I'm going to go with his opinion.
The only thing pretentious or guff is that post you've just written.

 

[Deleted member 58678]

I've said this many times but winning the Golden Glove really isn't particularly something a goalkeeper should be given that much praise for. Unlike assists and goalscoring where the players have to physically pass or shoot themselves to get the assist or goal, a 'keeper doesn't have to make a save to keep a clean sheet.

I honestly think it's just a token gesture to give 'keepers some recognition.

You keep clean sheets as a team. Or you get a bit of fortune through poor finishing by the opposition.


In saying that I actually want Joe to stay and learn and improve!

 

[razman]

I don't think Willy was picked ahead of Joe because he is any better than him or is able to implement Pep's style either.

I think it was to make his intent clear that he doesn't want Joe as Number 1

This! and how much ever majority want him to stay. The Boss has the final word.

 

[Lemon7277]

I don't think Willy was picked ahead of Joe because he is any better than him or is able to implement Pep's style either.

I think it was to make his intent clear that he doesn't want Joe as Number 1

and to put other clubs on alert to say he is clearly available...