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01cravend said:
Should have just punched/handled the ball and got sent off (take one for the team). Forced Pellegrini to let Panti show what he can do for 3 games

He should have stayed in his box and caught the header. he had no fucking business rushing out like a daft twat.
 
stony said:
01cravend said:
Should have just punched/handled the ball and got sent off (take one for the team). Forced Pellegrini to let Panti show what he can do for 3 games

He should have stayed in his box and caught the header. he had no fucking business rushing out like a daft twat.
It was terrible judgement by Hart. The time he had to take control of the situation from when the ball was played over the top to the point of Nasty heading it was plenty. He should have seen where Nasty was in relation to Torres, he should have known that it was a ball that wasn't in itself dangerous, and he should have been screaming his fucking head off letting Nasty know that a simple header was on. He did none of that, he came out, stopped, hesitated then rushed forward only shouting "keeper" when Nasty was about to head the thing.
It stems from a complete break down in communication between keeper and defender, something which was noticeable long before that goal.
 
Len Rum said:
City Slicker said:
Our defence is shit. No wonder hart keeps making mistakes, he's probably nervous cos of our poor defence.
LOL, at least it brought your post tally to 207 in the last four years. keep 'em comin' .

And you joined 2012, the year we won the title. Coincidence? Prob just moved from red to blue.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:


Joe Hart's Methods

1) Waiting for a long through ball that will fall short of his penalty area, racing out but mis-timing run allowing attacker to lob him or slot the ball past him (eg Chelsea yesterday, Aston Villa and CSKA Moscow).
2) Letting saveable shots through weak hands, particularly on his near post (eg Scotland and FC Bayern).
3) Screaming wildly at his defensive wall on dangerous free kicks prior to misplacing the wall and, for that matter, himself (eg Aston Villa and Manchester United in 2-3 defeat last season).
4) Transferring weight onto the wrong foot so appears flat-footed and stationary as the ball enters the net (eg Southampton away last year).
5) Failing to stay on his line or to come for a cross before flailing his wrong arm at the resulting headers as they pass him (Wigan in the FA Cup Final and Eire).

Generally, these "errors" result in restorative performances in the next match.
And this is the rub with dodgy goalkeepers.
If their underperformances and mistakes are occasional and random then we are looking at one issue...
... if such errors and lack of professionalism are in very very key events then we are looking at an entirely different issue
 
Re: A list of Joe Harts 9 errors this year

Kenney_The_Blue said:
Goals one and two: Southampton 3 Manchester City 1 - February 9, 2013
Hart tracks Rickie Lambert’s 18-yard shot but it squirms out of his grasp and between his legs, allowing Steven Davis to prod in an easy finish from close range. You could also ask questions about his reaction time to Gareth Barry’s own goal.
Cost: Davis’s goal took the score from 1-0 to 2-0 and Barry’s own goal took the score to 3-1.

Goal three: Manchester City 2 West Ham 1 - April 27, 2013
Through the legs. Again. Andy Carroll’s shot in stoppage-time is hit firmly but straight at the stopper. Alas, it passes between Hart’s hands and legs and creeps over the line.
Cost: No great harm done as City were already cruising 2-0 but doubts are rising.

Stats don't lie: Hart has the fourth worst shots to save ratio in the league

Goal four: England 3 Scotland 2 - August 14, 2013.
James Morrison takes possession outside the box after England fail to clear and hits a shot through a crowd which Hart fumbles into his net. The ball moves in the air but Hart appears to be caught between trying to catch or parry. The result is that he flaps the ball into the net.
Cost: The goal gives Scotland a shock 11th-minute lead, but England fight back. Roy Hodgson said: ‘I wouldn’t leave Joe out of the next game because he made that mistake but like everyone else, the competition for places is getting stronger.’

Goal five: Cardiff 3 Manchester City 2 - August 25, 2013
A famous defeat and one that convinced some of the remaining believers that Hart’s form had become a problem.

He actually played quite well in this game but gave away the second goal when he flapped at Peter Whittingham’s cross. Hart had become tangled with Aron Gunnarsson (something he was guilty of for the third goal, too) and allowed the ball to drop over his head, leaving Fraizer Campbell with an easy header. Pablo Zabaleta ought to share the blame.
Cost: The goal allowed Cardiff to go ahead 2-1. One point dropped and Manuel Pellegrini later insisted he would always pick on form not reputation.

Goal six: Aston Villa 3 Manchester City 2 - September 28, 2013
City looked like they would get a point but Hart played his part as they blew. He came charging off his line in an effort to block Andreas Weimann, who had gone clean through for Villa. He didn’t even come close to winning the ball. Not his biggest clanger but a costly mistake.
Cost: Weimann’s goal took the score from 2-2 to 3-2.

Goals seven and eight: Manchester City 1 Bayern Munich 3 - October 2, 2013
A dreadful night for Hart as he is at fault for both Franck Ribéry's opening goal and Arjen Robben's strike for the third. Ribery was able to beat Hart at his near post with a long-range shot, while the goalkeeper got a hand to Robben’ s strike but was again beaten at his near post.
Cost: The goals put City 1-0 and 3-0 down. After the game, Pellegrini said: ‘He continues with the trust of all the team so we hope he will recover from what he did last match. That is not only Joe Hart's responsibility, it was not only him who was guilty for what happened. He has an important amount but I always talk with all the players. We analyse all the goals.’

Goal nine: Chelsea 2 Manchester City 1 - October 28, 2013
The latest sorry episode. Willian hit a hopeful pass and Hart came surging off his line to intercept. He got a touch too close to team-mate Matija Nastasic, who attempted a headed back pass but succeeded only in nudging the ball over his goalkeeper’s head, putting Fernando Torres through on an open goal. A real calamity.
Cost: Took the score from 1-1 to 2-1, costing City a point. Pellegrini wasn't happy.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba</a> ... amity.html

wow they are really going for the throat aren't they,how that is supposed to help anyone i dont know
 
stony said:
Prestwich_Blue said:


Joe Hart's Methods

1) Waiting for a long through ball that will fall short of his penalty area, racing out but mis-timing run allowing attacker to lob him or slot the ball past him (eg Chelsea yesterday, Aston Villa and CSKA Moscow).
2) Letting saveable shots through weak hands, particularly on his near post (eg Scotland and FC Bayern).
3) Screaming wildly at his defensive wall on dangerous free kicks prior to misplacing the wall and, for that matter, himself (eg Aston Villa and Manchester United in 2-3 defeat last season).
4) Transferring weight onto the wrong foot so appears flat-footed and stationary as the ball enters the net (eg Southampton away last year).
5) Failing to stay on his line or to come for a cross before flailing his wrong arm at the resulting headers as they pass him (Wigan in the FA Cup Final and Eire).

Generally, these "errors" result in restorative performances in the next match.
And this is the rub with dodgy goalkeepers.
If their underperformances and mistakes are occasional and random then we are looking at one issue...
... if such errors and lack of professionalism are in very very key events then we are looking at an entirely different issue
I agree with all of that, everything on that list has been cause for concern for at least 12 months and is often the talking point amongst the lads I sit in and around.
Something needs to change with Joe because what he does in training, and what he brings to the team just ain't working.

The rest of the article I can't go along with, just speculation to try and jump on a popular subject.
 
Pablo1 said:
stony said:
Prestwich_Blue said:


Joe Hart's Methods

1) Waiting for a long through ball that will fall short of his penalty area, racing out but mis-timing run allowing attacker to lob him or slot the ball past him (eg Chelsea yesterday, Aston Villa and CSKA Moscow).
2) Letting saveable shots through weak hands, particularly on his near post (eg Scotland and FC Bayern).
3) Screaming wildly at his defensive wall on dangerous free kicks prior to misplacing the wall and, for that matter, himself (eg Aston Villa and Manchester United in 2-3 defeat last season).
4) Transferring weight onto the wrong foot so appears flat-footed and stationary as the ball enters the net (eg Southampton away last year).
5) Failing to stay on his line or to come for a cross before flailing his wrong arm at the resulting headers as they pass him (Wigan in the FA Cup Final and Eire).

Generally, these "errors" result in restorative performances in the next match.
And this is the rub with dodgy goalkeepers.
If their underperformances and mistakes are occasional and random then we are looking at one issue...
... if such errors and lack of professionalism are in very very key events then we are looking at an entirely different issue
I agree with all of that, everything on that list has been cause for concern for at least 12 months and is often the talking point amongst the lads I sit in and around.
Something needs to change with Joe because what he does in training, and what he brings to the team just ain't working.

Do you agree with their conclusion also ? Because they are saying it's all deliberate, and someone is making a lot of money from Joe's mistakes.
 
stony said:
Pablo1 said:
I agree with all of that, everything on that list has been cause for concern for at least 12 months and is often the talking point amongst the lads I sit in and around.
Something needs to change with Joe because what he does in training, and what he brings to the team just ain't working.

Do you agree with their conclusion also ? Because they are saying it's all deliberate, and someone is making a lot of money from Joe's mistakes.
Nope, check my edit.
 
TGR said:
Prestwich_Blue said:

I just can't buy that. No way. No how. Not now. Not ever. Just no.

It's worrying that he's become so error prone that some people can take it to mean he's bent.<br /><br />-- Mon Oct 28, 2013 3:57 pm --<br /><br />
Prestwich_Blue said:

What's your take on that PB ?
 
Blue Til Death said:
Oh we are singing.... Give Pants a chance... Oh we are singing, please give Pants a chance!!
Let's go all the way.

Everybody's talkin' 'bout
David Silva, Kun Aguero ,Jimmy Milner
Jesus Navas, Gael Clichy, Edin Dzeko
Joey Hart, Joey Hart, Joey Joey Hart

All we are sayin' is give Pants a chance...... all we are sayin' is give Pants a chance.
 
So now we're giving credence to the notion Hart may be bent ?

Oh dear ... today really has been bottom of the barrel Monday on Bluemoon.
 
BillyShears said:
So now we're giving credence to the notion Hart may be bent ?

Oh dear ... today really has been bottom of the barrel Monday on Bluemoon.
I don't think anyone on here has said he's bent. Just responding to the blog, in fact so far everyone has said its nonsense. I do agree with the points made before they tried to sensationalise the article, it kinda became gobbledygook at that point.
 
BillyShears said:
So now we're giving credence to the notion Hart may be bent ?

Oh dear ... today really has been bottom of the barrel Monday on Bluemoon.

I don't anyone has done that. Can you point out where someone has ?
 
stony said:
BillyShears said:
So now we're giving credence to the notion Hart may be bent ?

Oh dear ... today really has been bottom of the barrel Monday on Bluemoon.

I don't anyone has done that. Can you point out where someone has ?

Well ... you for one.

stony said:
PB has just posted a very interesting blog on the Hart thread. Basically accusing him of being bent(the blog not PB)

If by very interesting you mean "absolute pile of shit" then my apologies. Otherwise my point stands.
 
stony said:
BillyShears said:
So now we're giving credence to the notion Hart may be bent ?

Oh dear ... today really has been bottom of the barrel Monday on Bluemoon.

I don't anyone has done that. Can you point out where someone has ?

Doesn't posting the article give it credence?

If it had been posted in a thread about daft conspiracy theories, the moon landing being faked, Prince Phillip ordering Princess Di's death etc then fair enough. But it wasn't, it was posted in a serious, or as serious as internet forum debates go, discussion about Hart's lack of form.
 
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