joe hart

[Lucky13]

People love to mock the supposed 'Rag media's' obsession with below average English players like Jones and Welbeck - but this has been going on for some time on this forum with Hart - if he was French this thread would have another 100 pages on it.

Has anyone mentioned he is Englands number one yet?

 

[worsleyweb]

We won't win a European cup with him in net. Simple as that. He is in my opinion a mid level prem goals. If he played for everyton or WBA he would not be England's keeper.

Not seen him have brilliant games for years. Half our games we could play with no keeper.

I posted in the transfer forum at the start of the summer that Mancini wanted Begavic and got hammered for it.

He won't be our number one at the start of next season or England's number one.

 

[decmancity]

Just a thought ... but wasn't Joe lobbying to bring in Dave Watson as goalkeeping coach? Watson is credited with Joe's rapid improvement at Birmingham and is the England goalkeeping coach. Manuel evidently ruled that out and brought in his own guy from Malaga, Xabier Mancisidor. Could be one factor in Joe's wobbles? Before the start of last season, Mancini changed the defensive coach and brought in one of his mates from Italy, a guy called Gregucci who didn't speak a word of English and had been bombed out of 8 or 9 teams in 10 years. That was a disaster, the best defence in the country was completely screwed up with all that back three rubbish. Maybe Joe and Xabier aren't on the same page yet?

Mancini changed the defensive coach and it was a disaster? we had the best defence in the country last year!
Gregucci wasn't the one at fault for three at the back not working, the players who were playing in it were.

Unless after every season Hart is reset and has to be taught everything again. Joe doesn't need a goalkeeping coach to tell him how to catch crosses!
No excuses for his performance today.

 

[nobody can eat fifty eggs]

Just seen the goals again, Joe was very poor but I think he was relying on the ariel abilities of Garcia and Lescott. He looked very flat footed for the second and reluctant to come out for the 3rd. To me that shows a lack of confidence, one thing I never thought he'd lack.

 

[jrb]

Just been posted on the Skyscrapercity Premier league thread.

platt on al Jazeera sports -

"Joe hart wouldn't be a man city player if Mancini and I were still there, we wanted to sign begovic"

 

[avoidconfusion]

Just been posted on the Skyscrapercity Premier league thread.

platt on al Jazeera sports -

"Joe hart wouldn't be a man city player if Mancini and I were still there, we wanted to sign begovic"

Classy Platt.... fucking potatoeheaded twat

 

[Bill]

Get the villa keeper in.

 

[BertTrautmann'sParachute]

I wonder if he'll be the first professional footballer whose career comes to an abrupt end because of dandruff?

 

[Britpop95]

Get the villa keeper in.

I see what you did there....... Shay Given? Unless I somehow saw you doing what you didn't do and you were meaning Guzan.

 

[Tim of the Oak]

I wonder if he'll be the first professional footballer whose career comes to an abrupt end because of dandruff?

Can he catch it though.

Joe is not a bad keep overnight but has put more pressure on himself with the adverts, letting Mancini take the flack for his deterioration in form and wangling his way into the Cup Final team. We need to see Joe back to his best form and he still can be a truly world class keeper if he just focuses on improving his game.

 

[Sky Blue]

Get the villa keeper in.

Behave

 

[Anonymous]

People who think Joe's going to get dropped are kidding themselves. He'll be fine and he'll win us far more points than he loses us.

 

[BertTrautmann'sParachute]

I wonder if he'll be the first professional footballer whose career comes to an abrupt end because of dandruff?

Can he catch it though.

Joe is not a bad keep overnight but has put more pressure on himself with the adverts, letting Mancini take the flack for his deterioration in form and wangling his way into the Cup Final team. We need to see Joe back to his best form and he still can be a truly world class keeper if he just focuses on improving his game.

Really? I must have just popped out for a brew. when this happened. Where has this come from and what's the story?

 

[I'm no cynic but...]

People love to mock the supposed 'Rag media's' obsession with below average English players like Jones and Welbeck - but this has been going on for some time on this forum with Hart - if he was French this thread would have another 100 pages on it.

Has anyone mentioned he is Englands number one yet?

Damning him with faint praise!

 

[Tim of the Oak]

I wonder if he'll be the first professional footballer whose career comes to an abrupt end because of dandruff?

Can he catch it though.

Joe is not a bad keep overnight but has put more pressure on himself with the adverts, letting Mancini take the flack for his deterioration in form and wangling his way into the Cup Final team. We need to see Joe back to his best form and he still can be a truly world class keeper if he just focuses on improving his game.

Really? I must have just popped out for a brew. when this happened. Where has this come from and what's the story?

Allegedly Joe went to the Board to demand his place in the Cup Final Team. Supposedly from sources within the club but who can be certain?

The point I am Making is there are reasons why people Aren't willing to tolerate the mistakes they did before last season.

 

[Thaksinssoldier]

Am I the only one severely pissed off that he's prepared for this game prancing around a catwalk?

Up his own arse and over opinionated tbh.

Needs bringing down to Earth, because he's lost the run of himself and his football is getting worse by the game.

Oh, and if shot stopping and goal keeping were the same thing, Shay Given would still be in nets for us. Stopping some shots does not excuse his embarrassing performance on those corners, especially the first one where he was too busy playing with a Cardiff player who wasnt even blocking him.

 

[stevemcgarry]

Mancini changed the defensive coach and it was a disaster? we had the best defence in the country last year!
.

In the league. But not in the Champions League, we didn't ... nor in the League Cup, where we got pasted at home 4-2. We conceded 15 goals in the first 8 games last season and the defenders didn't have a clue what was going on. The season before we'd let in 8 in the first 8, and that included the 2-0 loss to Bayern, which was a bizarre night with all that Tevez business. I think that back three experiment gave us a poor start and ended up screwing up the entire season. My point is that new coaches come in and things change. This season Hart has a new goalkeeping coach and the team has a new defensive coach. They've gone from zonal marking to man marking at set pieces ... you've got to think that they are working with a complete new set of instructions at set pieces, Joe included. Maybe it's a factor, maybe it isn't ... worth considering though.

 

[BertTrautmann'sParachute]

Can he catch it though.

Joe is not a bad keep overnight but has put more pressure on himself with the adverts, letting Mancini take the flack for his deterioration in form and wangling his way into the Cup Final team. We need to see Joe back to his best form and he still can be a truly world class keeper if he just focuses on improving his game.

Really? I must have just popped out for a brew. when this happened. Where has this come from and what's the story?

Allegedly Joe went to the Board to demand his place in the Cup Final Team. Supposedly from sources within the club but who can be certain?

The point I am Making is there are reasons why people Aren't willing to tolerate the mistakes they did before last season.

Thanks for the reply. if true - wow!

 

[leighton]

He was poor today. For me the defence with Lescott and Garcia was shocking. Lescott isnt the type of player to be a leader and we lacked in the defence. To concede 2 goals from set peices is fucking shocking. That I hope will never happen again.
Hart will come good but he needs to be more demanding. When Kompany is out Joe needs to be the 1 who is vocal in the defence and setting them up.

 

[Jumanji]

Been partying too much with his big mate Wooney, needs to put his head down and focus on his football.

Joe thinks he's it, but needs to not take his ability for granted and realise that he still has a long way to go.