joe hart

[BoyBlue_1985]

Joe is lucky that we have a new manager, otherwise he'd probably have been dropped already, as Platt already said that Mancini was looking to replace him.

He needs to take this opportunity to show that mistakes made last year were a one off.....and he hasn't made the best start doing that.

Absolutely fuck all to do with form or ability though<br /><br />-- 04 Oct 2013, 08:39 --<br /><br />

any other player in the squad would be dropped if they showed poor form or made mistakes , if joe hart is the keeper i think he is , he will come back stronger , I remember joe corrigan losing confidence and he came back to be a truly brilliant keeper , and i think joe can do the same .So lets see what he is made of , drop him and make him play for his place , its the same for every other squad member , why should hart be guaranteed a pace no matter how he plays?

How the fuck does a keeper play for his place. Bring him on with 80 minutes played

 

[FantasyIreland]

A lot of support today from colleagues and coaches,it wont do him any harm.

I think he should keep his place tomorrow,such a show of confidence will do wonders I believe,and besides,being realistic,he's hardly a liability.

 

[cleavers]

The media can do one. Joe's our keeper

I haven't seen/read/heard the media on Joe but what are they trying to say?

I can't imagine that it'd be much more than:
Hart had at least 2 shocking errors last night.
Should Hogson play him in the games coming up?

Never a fan of the media but if this is the case, then that's hardly much...

They're only worried about their precious England, and will he make mistakes that cost us world cup qualification.

 

[City Raider]

Not sure about the best thing to do but it appears that he not only lets in more that you would expect him to save, but he also doesn't stop as many of the shots that you might not expect him to, the sought that separates great keepers - eg rooney free kick

worrying combination

 

[BoyBlue_1985]

Not sure about the best thing to do but it appears that he not only lets in more that you would expect him to save, but he also doesn't stop as many of the shots that you might not expect him to, the sought that separates great keepers - eg rooney free kick

worrying combination

You think any keeper could of saved the Rooney free kick in the 4-1?

 

[happy daze]

Not sure about the best thing to do but it appears that he not only lets in more that you would expect him to save, but he also doesn't stop as many of the shots that you might not expect him to, the sought that separates great keepers - eg rooney free kick

worrying combination

You think any keeper could of saved the Rooney free kick in the 4-1?

Trautmann

 

[Rhapsody in Blue]

Does anyone have stats regarding how many chances or shots on goal it takes to score on Hart? I have a feeling that he must be one of the worst goalkeepers in the league as every opportunity seems to result in a goal this season. Hart is of course not the only one to blame, but I would still be interested. Anyways, hope Costel will be the choice tomorrow, he deserved much better treatment after the semi against Chelsea last season.

 

[blueinmadrid]

Hart needs taking out of the firing line for a game. I would invent an injury and send him on holiday for two weeks. No public humiliation of dropping him and the inquest that would follow. Let him play against Everton and for England them send him away to get his head sorted. We have West Ham away which Pantimillion is probably better suited to anyway then bring him back for the Chelsea game.

I was thinking the same. Play Hart against Everton and if he does well then stick with him; if he has another bad game bring Pantilimon in for the away at West Ham.

 

[newenglandblue]

One other thing I dont buy into is the lack of competition. Who was Schmeichel's understydy at Utd and Denmark? Don't think they were pushing him much in terms of place competition. I like Joe and hope he succeeds, but whether he does or not is completely in his control, and if he needs pushing via another top keeper that would suggest a flaw in character that the top players dont have - they continue to improve irrespective of that. He has shown he can perform consistently at the necessary level - 2009-2012 - he just needs to get back there, and quick.

 

[oakiecokie]

Not sure about the best thing to do but it appears that he not only lets in more that you would expect him to save, but he also doesn't stop as many of the shots that you might not expect him to, the sought that separates great keepers - eg rooney free kick

worrying combination

You think any keeper could of saved the Rooney free kick in the 4-1?

Its bloody typical of some peoples attitude "should do better" mate.I can guarantee that had it it been Yaya who scored that free kick,then one and all on here would have been wanking themselves silly over a "world class free kick".

 

[newenglandblue]

Does anyone have stats regarding how many chances or shots on goal it takes to score on Hart? I have a feeling that he must be one of the worst goalkeepers in the league as every opportunity seems to result in a goal this season. Hart is of course not the only one to blame, but I would still be interested. Anyways, hope Costel will be the choice tomorrow, he deserved much better treatment after the semi against Chelsea last season.

Sorry for repeating it but he made a couple of good saves but also nearly cost us a goal. Picking him for tomorrow surely cant be based on that game

 

[eversince 76]

With goalkeepers it's different than with players. Goalkeepers need full back-up by the managers and players and you can't change them for the sake of it. Wnger, Fergie and Redknapp to name three in the past few years changed goallies because they weren't sure, and look what it did to all of them. Now De Gea and Lloris are the number 1 and they look a lot better (unfortunately ...). You don't change goalkeepers other than you agree to play another goalkeeper in less important competitions.

If Hart is to be replaced by Pantilimon it has to be because Pantilimon is the better goalkeeper and he will than be given the rest of the season to prove his choice. I like Pantilimon as a back up, but I'm not ready to conceed Hart being our no. 2 and Pantilimon taking over as our no. 1. I hope and expect Pellegrini to disregard the media who's only concerned is the national team anyway, and let Hart continue to do his job in goal. I'm sure Hart will come back strong.

 

[Blue52]

As long as we dn't anything stupid like bring cassilas in january, i'm fine with wateva pellegrini does. i would be pissed if we did coz that would show the club doesn't trust players, nd we'll just buy people for quick fixes. i cant stand having another oldish player on high wages taking the place of young players who are loyal to city, if that happens we'll never have legwnds who stay at the club their whole career and we'll hv to spend millions every year replacing the oldish players coming to the end of their careers.

 

[Rhapsody in Blue]

With goalkeepers it's different than with players. Goalkeepers need full back-up by the managers and players and you can't change them for the sake of it. Wnger, Fergie and Redknapp to name three in the past few years changed goallies because they weren't sure, and look what it did to all of them. Now De Gea and Lloris are the number 1 and they look a lot better (unfortunately ...). You don't change goalkeepers other than you agree to play another goalkeeper in less important competitions.

If Hart is to be replaced by Pantilimon it has to be because Pantilimon is the better goalkeeper and he will than be given the rest of the season to prove his choice. I like Pantilimon as a back up, but I'm not ready to conceed Hart being our no. 2 and Pantilimon taking over as our no. 1. I hope and expect Pellegrini to disregard the media who's only concerned is the national team anyway, and let Hart continue to do his job in goal. I'm sure Hart will come back strong.

The problem with Hart is that instead of stepping up and proving everybody else wrong, it's like he tries his best not to look affected. I miss the passion and hunger I saw in his eyes the title winning season, reminds me of Reina's decline after the CL success. De Gea stepped up after some mistakes although he is still not good enough in my opinion, Lloris is a little bit too much of a Barthez 'clown' and a TV keeper and will surely cost Spurs a couple of points this season as well, although up there with the league's best. Cech is probably the best goalkeeper in the league by a mile, rarely makes any mistakes and his distribution is fantastic. Mignolet is another one, based on what I have seen when he played in Sunderland against City. His efforts in Liverpool have been great this season as well, although his distribution can be poor.

 

[Alex B]

Why dont we show abit of faith in the guy and get behind him as fans get his confidence back which is obviously lacking. He has the talent to go on to be a City great lets not write him off yet ffs. Englands number 1.

 

[eversince 76]

With goalkeepers it's different than with players. Goalkeepers need full back-up by the managers and players and you can't change them for the sake of it. Wnger, Fergie and Redknapp to name three in the past few years changed goallies because they weren't sure, and look what it did to all of them. Now De Gea and Lloris are the number 1 and they look a lot better (unfortunately ...). You don't change goalkeepers other than you agree to play another goalkeeper in less important competitions.

If Hart is to be replaced by Pantilimon it has to be because Pantilimon is the better goalkeeper and he will than be given the rest of the season to prove his choice. I like Pantilimon as a back up, but I'm not ready to conceed Hart being our no. 2 and Pantilimon taking over as our no. 1. I hope and expect Pellegrini to disregard the media who's only concerned is the national team anyway, and let Hart continue to do his job in goal. I'm sure Hart will come back strong.

The problem with Hart is that instead of stepping up and proving everybody else wrong, it's like he tries his best not to look affected. I miss the passion and hunger I saw in his eyes the title winning season, reminds me of Reina's decline after the CL success. De Gea stepped up after some mistakes although he is still not good enough in my opinion, Lloris is a little bit too much of a Barthez 'clown' and a TV keeper and will surely cost Spurs a couple of points this season as well, although up there with the league's best. Cech is probably the best goalkeeper in the league by a mile, rarely makes any mistakes and his distribution is fantastic. Mignolet is another one, based on what I have seen when he played in Sunderland against City. His efforts in Liverpool have been great this season as well, although his distribution can be poor.

My point was the goalkeepers I mentioned all improved after it was made clear them being the no. 1. Some on here think taking out Hart for a couple of matches to regain his confidence are wrong. You don't do that with goalkeepers. You might have a point Hart is trying to hard not to look affected, but you'll have to know the man in person rather than to watch him play from the stands. If the players have enough confidence in him (and some have quickly come out to state so) it'll do for me. Yet it's up to the goalkeeping coach and Pellegrini.

 

[Blueband Brother]

Why dont we show abit of faith in the guy and get behind him as fans get his confidence back which is obviously lacking. He has the talent to go on to be a City great lets not write him off yet ffs. Englands number 1.

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[City Raider]

Not sure about the best thing to do but it appears that he not only lets in more that you would expect him to save, but he also doesn't stop as many of the shots that you might not expect him to, the sought that separates great keepers - eg rooney free kick



worrying combination

You think any keeper could of saved the Rooney free kick in the 4-1?

he got fingers to it but it may not be the best example - does a world class keeper save it? did he make better saves in the opening game at spurs a couple of seasons ago?

i don't know, i'm throwing out there - as in it's a forum

 

[BoyBlue_1985]

Not sure about the best thing to do but it appears that he not only lets in more that you would expect him to save, but he also doesn't stop as many of the shots that you might not expect him to, the sought that separates great keepers - eg rooney free kick


worrying combination

You think any keeper could of saved the Rooney free kick in the 4-1?

he got fingers to it but it may not be the best example - does a world class keeper save it? did he make better saves in the opening game at spurs a couple of seasons ago?

i don't know, i'm throwing out there - as in it's a forum

It was top corner stuff, he would have to be a fair bit taller to reach it. He did make great saves against Spurs a couple of years back but nothing was drilled top corner from 20 yards. It would of been one of been a clip on greatest saves ever reel

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

Why dont we show abit of faith in the guy and get behind him as fans get his confidence back which is obviously lacking. He has the talent to go on to be a City great lets not write him off yet ffs. Englands number 1.

Absolutely. Quite a few will remember Joe C's 'mishaps' before he went on to be on of City's rock solid goalies!