John Guidetti

noise said:
greasedupdeafguy said:
Is he back in full training yet? I would have him over Balotelli and Dzeko everyday of the week.
This made me chuckle..
why, Dzeko and Balotelli have shown fuck all in there starts especially Dzeko who just doesn't look like he gives a shit. Not saying hes going to rip the prem up but he deserves a chance as the other two aren't showing anything.
 
greasedupdeafguy said:
noise said:
greasedupdeafguy said:
Is he back in full training yet? I would have him over Balotelli and Dzeko everyday of the week.
This made me chuckle..
why



probably because anyone who thinks a player without any premiership pedigree is better than our 3rd and 4th best strikers is a bit of a clown.




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r.soleofsalford said:
greasedupdeafguy said:
noise said:
This made me chuckle..
why



probably because anyone who thinks a player without any premiership pedigree is better than our 3rd and 4th best strikers is a bit of a clown.




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Yes because Dzeko and Balotelli are ripping the prem up at the moment aren't they. Guidetti scored a hat-trick against the team Dzeko did fuck all against.
 
FantasyIreland said:
The Villa move would be perfect.

They have a young,hard working,progressing team with a manager who knows his stuff.John would hopefully get good game time and could learn plenty there.


Also an opportunity for us to put first dabs on Benteke....!

Would they play him ahead of Benteke and weimann though? I'd like to see him play 90 minutes a week. Think Southampton, Norwich or Swansea would be ideal for him, hope they come in for him
 
greasedupdeafguy said:
r.soleofsalford said:
greasedupdeafguy said:



probably because anyone who thinks a player without any premiership pedigree is better than our 3rd and 4th best strikers is a bit of a clown.




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Yes because Dzeko and Balotelli are ripping the prem up at the moment aren't they.




last year we won the league with dzeko and balotelli as our 3rd and 4th option this year we are 2nd and imo just starting to play better. what makes you think guidetti is up for the job
 
r.soleofsalford said:
greasedupdeafguy said:
r.soleofsalford said:
probably because anyone who thinks a player without any premiership pedigree is better than our 3rd and 4th best strikers is a bit of a clown.




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Yes because Dzeko and Balotelli are ripping the prem up at the moment aren't they.




last year we won the league with Dzeko and Balotelli as our 3rd and 4th option this year we are 2nd and imo just starting to play better. what makes you think Guidetti is up for the job
Haven't we won 1 in 9 matches when Dzeko has started and only won 33% of matches when Balotelli has started. Guidetti could be something special he was treated like a god by Feyenoord fans no one knows how how he will do in the prem but he at least deserves a chance especially at a time when neither Dzeko (didn't look interested vs Newcastle) and Balotelli are hardly pulling up any trees.
 
greasedupdeafguy said:
r.soleofsalford said:
greasedupdeafguy said:
Yes because Dzeko and Balotelli are ripping the prem up at the moment aren't they.




last year we won the league with Dzeko and Balotelli as our 3rd and 4th option this year we are 2nd and imo just starting to play better. what makes you think Guidetti is up for the job
Haven't we won 1 in 9 matches when Dzeko has started and only won 33% of matches when Balotelli has started. Guidetti could be something special he was treated like a god by Feyenoord fans no one knows how how he will do in the prem but he at least deserves a chance especially at a time when neither Dzeko (didn't look interested vs Newcastle) and Balotelli are hardly pulling up any trees.



manchester city, united, chelsea and arsenal no longer bring players straight into their premiership first 11`s from the reserves. there is a reason for that, its because the standard in the reserves isnt good enough to take a gamble on the player coming off in the prem. ditto the dutch league (yes i know about the ajax result)
guidetti may well be good enough, but we first need to send him out to a team like sunderland or norwich etc and see if he is ready to become 3rd or 4th choice for us.

this isnt a slight on guidetti its just being realistic
 
Players have various stages and develop sooner (or later) at their own pace but the model for transition is taking shape. In the old days it was youths, B-team then first team. Not simple nowadays. Even with our academy factory that churned out 20 plus players...

1. Capture and develop/nurture
2. Youth academy intern
3. Established academy player
4. EDS/reserve level (U21 league/nextGen)
5. Short loan out to League 1/2 level (stable club)
6. Longer loan out to League 1/2 level (stable club)
7. Loan out to Championship level (stable club)
8. Loan out to Championship/PL club/European top flight club
9. Carling Cup/FA Cup/Europa League standard exposure
10. Premier League exposure.
11. Premier League inclusion in squad.
12. Premier League substitute appearances (compete with experienced/international senior players)
13. Premier League appearances (compete with experienced/international senior players)
14. Established Premier League player.

Then you'll always have many other steps to control the player. Nurture, satisfy, draw desire and passion, support, play to the ego/brain etc. Is every player dedicated and loyal? What motivates the player? What is their ambition? Is there hunger?
 
I think he deserves at least few minutes on the pitch in next 2 or 3 weeks so I hope we'll see him soon. Balo is not fit, Nasri is injured, Mancini has no confidence in Sinclair...
 
NQCitizen said:
Would they play him ahead of Benteke and weimann though? I'd like to see him play 90 minutes a week. Think Southampton, Norwich or Swansea would be ideal for him, hope they come in for him

Well if they don't he may as well pack his bags permanently,he needs the challenge,i think it's the perfect barometer.
 

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