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Is it the same awful manager who gave Stones the chance to play regularly and big offers came to him after Martinez coached him ?
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Is it the same awful manager who gave Stones the chance to play regularly and big offers came to him after Martinez coached him ?
Is it the same awful manager who gave Stones the chance to play regularly and big offers came to him after Martinez coached him ?
Yup, the same manager who doesn't have a job and got Wigan relegated and has finished bottom half of the table for 2 seasons running with a decent Everton squad
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What he has going for him is that he's a Pep sort of defender. But we know how much Laporte is going to cost, so it would be silly to spend more than that on Stones. Unless the English thing is that important. The other thing I'd say about him is that Mourinho wanted him. And that's a manager who knows how to build a defence.
Yup, the same manager who doesn't have a job and got Wigan relegated and has finished bottom half of the table for 2 seasons running with a decent Everton squad
But Martinez finished 5th in his first season when stones didn't play half as much...!! Sounds like Stones arrival as a first team regular sent there historically tight defensive unit into free fall to me...!!
But Martinez finished 5th in his first season when stones didn't play half as much...!! Sounds like Stones arrival as a first team regular sent there historically tight defensive unit into free fall to me...!!
Psml okay then
That's an awfully simplistic way too look at things. Lescott was average at best. The problem hasn't been replacing Lescott. Every CB we've had since has been far superior. The problem is keeping Komps healthy and fostering CB chemistry and continuity. Lescott was a ripoff at 24 million 6-7 years ago. It's the equivalent of paying 55 million now. Silva cost us about similar.I think Lescott was an absolute bargain when you look at how much we've spent failling to replace him.
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With Kompany's future, let's say, uncertain, we need 5 CBs.
Given that we don't want a mammoth squad with certain players never playing and costs needing to be taken into account, some of these 5 CBs will need to be versatile enough to play other positions - some of which good enough to start in these other positions. This is something Pep wants anyway.
Mangala and Demichelis will leave so we're left with Kompany and Otamendi.
Denayer will return from loan.
Laporte will probably be signed.
That gives us 4 with Denayer able to play RB (and, I think, start there)
From what I've seen I think Stones can play DM. And that, as well as his age and potential to be part of a very long term back 4 with Denayer and Laporte, is why I would sign him.
Furthermore, Stones sat infront of a back 4 of Denayer Otamendi/Kompany Laporte and an attacking left back, would give us the option of switching between 3 and 4 at the back with Stones simply needing to drop in.
Everton promised him he could leave this summer. I would do the deal. People were slagging off Barkley this time last year after a poor season. Some silly things were being said. A few months later, before Everton downed tools under a dead man, he was on fire and BM was singing his praises. I think a similar story will occur if Stones ends up elsewhere.
Given that we don't want a mammoth squad with certain players never playing and costs needing to be taken into account, some of these 5 CBs will need to be versatile enough to play other positions - some of which good enough to start in these other positions. This is something Pep wants anyway.
Mangala and Demichelis will leave so we're left with Kompany and Otamendi.
Denayer will return from loan.
Laporte will probably be signed.
That gives us 4 with Denayer able to play RB (and, I think, start there)
From what I've seen I think Stones can play DM. And that, as well as his age and potential to be part of a very long term back 4 with Denayer and Laporte, is why I would sign him.
Furthermore, Stones sat infront of a back 4 of Denayer Otamendi/Kompany Laporte and an attacking left back, would give us the option of switching between 3 and 4 at the back with Stones simply needing to drop in.
Everton promised him he could leave this summer. I would do the deal. People were slagging off Barkley this time last year after a poor season. Some silly things were being said. A few months later, before Everton downed tools under a dead man, he was on fire and BM was singing his praises. I think a similar story will occur if Stones ends up elsewhere.
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I still think Stones is worth the punt. I can't deny he's had a bad season, but he has everything to become a world class CB in my opinion.
Psml okay then
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