John Stones

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colombia-mcfc said:
Stones is rubbish. He cant defend to save his life. Much rather we gave denayer a go or sign a defender who can defend, Bruma from psv is very good and cheap. Pep is here to coach players. Im sure he can help Mangala's passing ability just like he improved boatengs passing. Everyone says that Mangala makes mistakes but Stones makes 10x more mistakes. He is just another overrated english player. Surely our scouting department must be better than this? I would personally sign Laporte and Bruma and use the money that we would spend on stones to improve the full back positions and another centre mid.
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Bruma ? Really? Comparing Bruma to John Stones is ridiculous mate, Stones makes no more mistakes than any other centre halves in the premier league, he's certainly a massive step up from Otamendi, everytime he's faced us I've been really impressed. Hopefully he does come here and I can't wait to see him in a blue shirt under Pep.
 
Stones will be a quality signing if it's true we complained over lack of quality in that position the last 2 years Denayer,stones,laporte, kompany ,otamendi will give us the best cb options any club could have .
 
Im on record as saying i dont believe he is anything special as a defender, regardless of how comfortable he is on the ball.

Trust in Pep is all i can say.
 
Smalling is good example of media sucking his coc and he makes more mistakes per game than Stones and he has more experience as a player.

Judge a player in our team after 6 months not by the media bollocks have a brain and think for yourself.
 
UncleCTID said:
Someone posted a very good video article about the trend and effect of the media building up, discrediting and then destroying the reputation of (young) footballers in this country, and how generally the football 'community' only deal in 'world class' or 'shit' as lazy black and white descriptors. And how it's lapped up by fans...

Very good article, and very apparent that its conclusions bear truth, as it seems a fair few of our bluemoon brethren have bought into the media's character assassinations of Stones and Sterling over a one year period, not really taking into account all the other factors that impact on a single players performance (team performance, tactics, form blah blah blah)

Worth digging out and watching...
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To me it's generally the case that the folks that hype up players (English ones in particularly) are more likely to be listening to the media than the people who think a player isn't all that.

I hear the same point occasionally on here about Sterling. The media didn't turn some fans against Sterling half way through the season. People just saw him playing shit. City fans want all our players to play good and come good but some don't live in fantasies about those not delivering. IMO!. :-)
 
Dribble said:
Stones is young. He can defend and he's has two good feet and is calm under pressure. He has lapses in concentration, but he's still young enough that this can be trained out of him. Like Mangala, all the raw tools are there, he just needs a good coach to guide him to get the best out of the player.
It's no coincidence the likes have Stones and Mangala have struggled with the tactical systems they had to endure over the last couple of seasons.
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This every day of the week.
 
"Technically" he's one of the best ball playing defenders in the Prem, something that Pep looks at on any CV before signing.

If he thinks Stones is a player that will fit well in his system that's good enough for me
 
Danamy said:
"Technically" he's one of the best ball playing defenders in the Prem, something that Pep looks at on any CV before signing.

If he thinks Stones is a player that will fit well in his system that's good enough for me
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That's all I can say too. I don't rate him at all but I rate Pep highly enough to have faith.
 
More likely Barca turned him down. Stones' pr team are hardly going to say that Barca rejected him. I'm sorry but I don't rate Stones especially for the money being suggested. There are centre backs just as good on the ball as Stones who can defend and would be cheaper. I'd rather get Laporte then have our centre backs as Kompany, Laporte, Otamendi and Mangala with Denayer as the potential 5th centre back if needed. Spend the money that we would spend on Stones to buy 2 quality full backs and another midfielder. If we are that desperate for a centre back who can pass then just make an offer that Juve can't refuse for Bonucci ffs.
 
Clearly Barca was interested in signing him whether they can't afford the fee or match his wages etc he will be a player under Pep!
 
Would be delighted with Stones. He has had a shaky season but Martinez has been proven to have no idea how to set up a defence. I believe with some coaching he will he top class. Vinny could be important in tutoring Stones and Laporte if they are both coming. Not forgetting the very impressive Denayer is coming back, all three are brilliant with the ball at their feet as well as being solid defenders.

Only thing is I'm not sure where this leaves Mangala and Otamendi, surely at least one will be going?
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
He's turning down Barcelona FFS.

Think about this for a second.

He's the real deal.
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I have to admit that for all his obvious talent I remain sceptical about his defensive abilities however I do really love the fact that he is prepared to snub Barca to come to us. A sign of the times, perhaps the media will have to adjust the agenda!!!
 
colombia-mcfc said:
Stones is rubbish. He cant defend to save his life. Much rather we gave denayer a go or sign a defender who can defend, Bruma from psv is very good and cheap. Pep is here to coach players. Im sure he can help Mangala's passing ability just like he improved boatengs passing. Everyone says that Mangala makes mistakes but Stones makes 10x more mistakes. He is just another overrated english player. Surely our scouting department must be better than this? I would personally sign Laporte and Bruma and use the money that we would spend on stones to improve the full back positions and another centre mid.
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I'd go with that all day long..

You say "Surely our scouting department must be better than this" My response is...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Worthington

A rag in every position at the club pulling us back..

Thank Feck Davies has been demoted/Fecked off..
 
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