Jorginho

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Not a killer imo if he is at Chelsea. Fernandinho Gundogan and Delph ( i think he may be called upon a few times in the front of the defence) between them are more than enough. If Zinchenko stays i would be interested to see how he can handle that position even.

Either way we are not desperate to fill a spot that has a gaping lack of quality so it really doesn't fuss me much. If we had nobody for the position then yeah i'd be flapping a bit at the prospect of a really bad "make do" setup for that position.

He should do well with Chelsea, certainly a good mark of intent to fight back hard after dropping off the pace a bit. The sort of stuff Arsenal should be doing imo but don't seem to be.
 
SiMCFC said:
It would appear it's nothing City have done wrong, we thought we had him. Napoli then clearly caught wind that Chelsea and Sarri would raid them so from their point of view, Jorginho and Sarri go to Chelsea and I bet we don't see any other Napoli players heading that way anytime soon. They have played a blinder really as once they knew they were losing them both they have secured the rest of their players with the one deal, if not Sarri goes Chelsea. Jorginho comes to city and they have to then start rebutting offers for other players.
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While this sounds nice in theory, and would make City fans feel better, I don't think there is any teutt to it.

Napoli is not in fear of being raised. And that raiding will not stop because they sold one player to Chelsea.

They sold to Chelsea coz Chelsea offered more money. It's really that simple. It's a bottom line game. "You offer me 10? He offered me 12. I'm going with 12."

I don't think Napoli is worried about losing plAyers at all. And they won't change their mind to stop Chelsea from attempting to buy other Napoli players. It's not like Chelsea is the only team who can afford Napoli players. So appeasing Chelsea will be a silly reason to sell to them.
 
wildfig said:
We differ, I think to assume that once we are interested in a player that every other club is a downgrade is remarkably arrogant. We're a great option, but certainly not the only one. Chelsea have won a lot of trophies.

There's a lot to think to about when it comes to moving country, players at a club, different managers, the style of play, position in the pecking order, I could go on.
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At this point in time it's a reality. Don't mistake confidence with arrogance.

Will he have an opportunity to play in the best club competition at Chelsea? I'm fully aware of their history and it's an appealing club, for sure. But that doesn't change my opinion that we're a better option at the moment.
 
So we reached an agreement with Napoli and the player. Presumably a verbal contract.
Napoli realised we would not go higher. Chelsea went higher and clinched the deal, how is.this different than others we have missed out on other than us not walking away believing that the verbal contract stops them finding another buyer.
We had better remember that we set our maximum and any verbal contract is simply a fall back position should the vendor be unable to improve it.

A verbal contract is not worth the paper its written on was a Sam Goldwyn classic or was it Mayer?
 
Marvin said:
Who reportedly fell out with Costa, Willian, Hazard and Luiz. Though of course we must not believe everything we read
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Yes-sadly player power wins these days doesn't it? Poor Bobby Manc was a victim of this.
 
TCIB said:
Not a killer imo if he is at Chelsea. Fernandinho Gundogan and Delph ( i think he may be called upon a few times in the front of the defence) between them are more than enough. If Zinchenko stays i would be interested to see how he can handle that position even.

Either way we are not desperate to fill a spot that has a gaping lack of quality so it really doesn't fuss me much. If we had nobody for the position then yeah i'd be flapping a bit at the prospect of a really bad "make do" setup for that position.

He should do well with Chelsea, certainly a good mark of intent to fight back hard after dropping off the pace a bit. The sort of stuff Arsenal should be doing imo but don't seem to be.
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Arsenal been very active in the transfer window. The players they are going for are not high profile but doesn't mean to say they will fail.
 
wildfig said:
We aren't some Mecca of football. Chelsea have an appeal whether you believe it or not.

Perhaps it's not the money and it's loyalty to Sarri that's motivated him?

I'm staggered by how many "can't believe he's done this to us" when he doesn't have any loyalty or affection towards us or Pep. How very dare he not come to City, we don't deserve to be snubbed.
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Haha good post. The bloke has absolutely no affiliation to City in any way and owes us nothing despite us showing interest. Always makes me wonder what regard fans think everyone holds their club in. There's a host of good clubs across loads of top cities who are coached by top coaches who can offer good football in a good league on good money, just the same as City can. Yes, we are the Champions, but Chelsea were the champions the season before and two seasons before that and they're getting a manager he knows and who plays good footy. He might look at Kante and think "well i can play football the coach wants miles better than he can so i'll get straight in Chelsea's team" whereas he might look at us and think "well i'll be in competition with Fernandinho and Gundogan at City, i might not play every week"...
 
MeatHunterrr said:
only ourselves to blame, we had weeks to close the deal.
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Its all very baffling to be fair and who is to blame for this if we go off whats said all agreed with Napoli 15 days ago and everything done contract wise concerning agent/player so what the hell has happened within those 15 days is any bodys guess.
 
BLUEMATT23 said:
Yes-sadly player power wins these days doesn't it? Poor Bobby Manc was a victim of this.
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A good manager always carries people by capturing their hearts and minds. Whether Bobby manc was victim or villain is impossible to say unless you were there.
 
leewill31 said:
Its all very baffling to be fair and who is to blame for this if we go off whats said all agreed with Napoli 15 days ago and everything done contract wise concerning agent/player so what the hell has happened within those 15 days is any bodys guess.
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He might have just looked at the Sarri situation and thought that he'd edge a bet elsewhere and see what deal he could get in case Sarri didn't go to Chelsea
 
Psychedelic Casual said:
Haha good post. The bloke has absolutely no affiliation to City in any way and owes us nothing despite us showing interest. Always makes me wonder what regard fans think everyone holds their club in. There's a host of good clubs across loads of top cities who are coached by top coaches who can offer good football in a good league on good money, just the same as City can. Yes, we are the Champions, but Chelsea were the champions the season before and two seasons before that and they're getting a manager he knows and who plays good footy. He might look at Kante and think "well i can play football the coach wants miles better than he can so i'll get straight in Chelsea's team" whereas he might look at us and think "well i'll be in competition with Fernandinho and Gundogan at City, i might not play every week"...
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That's all very fair, but just one thing...

We aren't just the champions, we're THE champions. You cannot compare Conte/Sarri to Pep, you cannot compare us to Chelsea last year. It's not quite the same.
 
My take on the Jorginho saga: as long as BBC or Skysports doesn't announce anything or even mentioning "Jorginho" and "medical" in the same sentence, we're good. There's been so many rumours around this guy for so long. Nothing is correct. I really hope he goes to City. He has praised Pep as a global icon and they had a deal a few weeks ago. Why would he suddenly go to Chelsea? Also, I used google translate for an article in italian calcio 24, in which Jorginho says goodbye and salute Sarri. Why would he do that if he were to join him at Chelsea? ah what a mess this is...
 
There's a hell of a lot of flapping on this thread. You'd think most of you were all 12 year olds the way you post.

Napoli, as a company, are duty bound to get the best price for their players, if and when they leave. If we agree terms with a player and then another club come in with a better bid, Napoli, and every other club in the world, would take the higher bid. It's sensible economics and no ones fault.

We lose out due to our ceiling? No biggie, there are other players out there that would suit the team.
 
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