Josko Gvardiol

[Lord Blue]

Sooner or later we will have to start going higher for transfers if we will get anyone . You can safely say £80 mill is the new £50 mill .

It's not that long since City paying around 25m for several players was thought extravagant. how much for that splurge for the likes of David, Yaya, now?

 

[Dax777]

Fair enough… you seem like a decent guy and like I said, you clearly research this stuff.

That said, your idea of having your own valuation system, just seems bonkers to me!

Established WC attacking/defensive potential/proven yada yada… a player is worth what a club is willing to pay! If Arsenal pay £110 mil for Rice and he kicks on another level and wins them the league, then it’s money well spent… he could also struggle under the weight of the price tag and fail to adapt to their team etc etc. It’s all relative. A player is worth what someone is willing to pay and we we’re willing to pay £90m for Rice but clearly not £100m+

We move on to the next one and enjoy the ride.

If you read the original tpostvob the thread I copied that post from, I originally prefaced that post with the exact claim above

I.e. "that a player is worth whatever a team is willing to pay." I simply just quoted the part that was relevant to the question Benzino asked me on this thread..

Anyway agree on your last point. :)

 

[adelaideblue]

No I don't have a club, but when anyone says playerX or Y is not worth the price they were purchased for, they are often going off some internal analysis in their head.

I was just giving a view of how that internal analysis work in my head.

As for Rice, I'd say he is worth around 55 to 60 million pounds. I suppose that's about 30 to 45 million less than City's valuation. My bad for saying 50 million, I'm unfortunately from the Eni Aluko school of math :)

always going to pay fair bit more for an England regular, similar to us buying Grealish - with Jack though i think there is additional cost due to the marketing side of things that he brings in inc new supporters as well

 

[Deleted member 77198]

Here is how I stated it on another thread talking about Declan Rice:

"I don't think he is worth 100 million, but then again my bias towards attacking minded players means I don't think any defensive minded player, including Rodri or Peak Busquet is worth 100 million.

But my valuation matrix is different. Clearly City Management has a different valuation than I do. Because they clearly thought Rice was worth something around 90 million or more. That's about 50 million over my valuation.

But like they say, a player is worth what someone is willing to pay. Regardless of what my personal dumb opinion is on how valuation should be viewed.

But here is mine:

Established WC attacking player at top club : 100 million or above is okay.

Established WC attacking potential player at Midtable Club: 40 - 75 Mill is max

Established WC defensive players at Top clubs:
50 - 75 mil

Potential WC defensive players at Midtable or foreign club: 25 - 60 Million.

Good Role players: 10 - 40 mill

By my valuation system, you can see we are already overpaying for Gvardiol.

And that's why I don't take my view on valuation seriously. I have to simply accept that Clubs value players differently. And it isn't my place to judge that value. Just to be happy when my club agrees with my valuation and bow out when necessary."

In short, I probably think he is worth about 75 - 80 million Euros tops

Completely agree with those valuations.

 

[Lovebitesandeveryfing]

Of course, people can post what they like. But I'm a bit perplexed that Declan Rice is still being discussed, honestly. Especially on this thread.
I would have already forgotten who he is, were I not being reminded of it.

 

[Blue Coop]

Just seeing what a difference Dias made to the side with his quality and vocal leadership I think more of those attributes in the side is worth plenty. If he’s as good as people are saying then between Dias, Stones & Gvardiol you won’t find a better set of CBs anywhere in the world. And they all carry longevity because of their ages.

 

[MadchesterCity]

Come on City, get him on a 6 year deal today

 

[Kamaro011]

This is going to be one of those deals where we will walk out isn't?

 

[Haaland94]

Just seeing what a difference Dias made to the side with his quality and vocal leadership I think more of those attributes in the side is worth plenty. If he’s as good as people are saying then between Dias, Stones & Gvardiol you won’t find a better set of CBs anywhere in the world. And they all carry longevity because of their ages.

By a country mile.

 

[Manc123]

This is going to be one of those deals where we will walk out isn't?

Unlikely...looks more like waiting for Leipzig to sign their replacements which they are currently doing.