Josko Gvardiol

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Blue and true said:
Suggesting City would retrieve any additional £10m paid for Gvardiol by adding £50 to season ticket prices is disingenuous at best, delusional at worst. And if the club identify someone they believe is the next Messi then they'll find that extra £10mil from somewhere. As any elite club would.

We're talking about an extra £10mil to bring in the best young defender on the planet; fucking hell we've just flogged James Trafford for double that. He's Pep's primary target, and given our incredible manager isn't going to be around forever, we need to be securing the players he is identifying so the transition from Pep-ball to NewManager-ball is as seamless as possible.
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Your post makes no sense the original poster wasn’t suggesting that they where saying we need to stick to our budget so he was in agreement with you or at least I think he was but your second Paragraph seems to contracting this by suggesting that the best defender is worth over paying for perhaps hinting at marketing help I doubt it helps much outside of Messi Ronaldo back in the day Haaland etc not usually defenders not sure what Trafford has to do with this if we over pay for a players we cannot then sell a youth player to make up the difference we cannot guarantee more money or a find an extra player to sell from youth we have who we have
 
WRicko said:
Your post makes no sense the original poster wasn’t suggesting that they where saying we need to stick to our budget so he was in agreement with you or at least I think he was but your second Paragraph seems to contracting this by suggesting that the best defender is worth over paying for perhaps hinting at marketing help I doubt it helps much outside of Messi Ronaldo back in the day Haaland etc not usually defenders not sure what Trafford has to do with this if we over pay for a players we cannot then sell a youth player to make up the difference we cannot guarantee more money or a find an extra player to sell from youth we have who we have
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Maybe I've misinterpreted, but I read it as paying the Leipzig fee would mean an increase in ticket prices; which is ludicrous. If I've misunderstood his point then fair enough, but I don't think I did.

My second paragraph suggested we should pay the Leipzig fee, which is currently about £10-15m higher than we want to go. Marketing has nothing to do with it.
 
Blue and true said:
Suggesting City would retrieve any additional £10m paid for Gvardiol by adding £50 to season ticket prices is disingenuous at best, delusional at worst. And if the club identify someone they believe is the next Messi then they'll find that extra £10mil from somewhere. As any elite club would.

We're talking about an extra £10mil to bring in the best young defender on the planet; fucking hell we've just flogged James Trafford for double that. He's Pep's primary target, and given our incredible manager isn't going to be around forever, we need to be securing the players he is identifying so the transition from Pep-ball to NewManager-ball is as seamless as possible.
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I'm saying 10 to 15 million is not pocket money and every penny the club spends has an opportunity cost.

Please don't call me delusional.
 
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Blue and true said:
Suggesting City would retrieve any additional £10m paid for Gvardiol by adding £50 to season ticket prices is disingenuous at best, delusional at worst. And if the club identify someone they believe is the next Messi then they'll find that extra £10mil from somewhere. As any elite club would.

We're talking about an extra £10mil to bring in the best young defender on the planet; fucking hell we've just flogged James Trafford for double that. He's Pep's primary target, and given our incredible manager isn't going to be around forever, we need to be securing the players he is identifying so the transition from Pep-ball to NewManager-ball is as seamless as possible.
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+1.
 
Blue and true said:
It's full of net-spenders mate. They're happy to miss out on Gvardiol if it means the club saving £10mil to put towards, ermm...absolutely nobody as good.
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Maybe if City save this £10mill on Josko, they won’t put season tickets prices up again in the 2024/25 sseason?
 
SSBlue said:
I'm saying 10 to 15 million is not pocket money and every penny the club spends has an opportunity cost.

Please don't call me delusional.
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You do realise how much money City have spent and wasted on absolutely useless players since Shielk Mansour bought the club? The figure is in the £100’s of millions. And you’re still banging on about saving £10mill. FFS, give it up!
 
Blue and true said:
Maybe I've misinterpreted, but I read it as paying the Leipzig fee would mean an increase in ticket prices; which is ludicrous. If I've misunderstood his point then fair enough, but I don't think I did.

My second paragraph suggested we should pay the Leipzig fee, which is currently about £10-15m higher than we want to go. Marketing has nothing to do with it.
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You minsinterpreted. He was just showing the 15 mill isn’t peanuts and is probably about 25% of our profits annually. do that on 3 or 4 transfers and it is unaffordable. For this I expect we’ll pay it but it shouldn’t be without proper consideration.
 
jrb said:
Isn't there a large sum of money to carry over from previous player sales or something that wasn't added to the last financial accounts?
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Maybe ,I don’t know, but historically I don’t remember our profits ever being much more than 10% of revenue. Quite often less than 10%.So I doubt any profit projections will be much more than 10%.
 
jrb said:
You do realise how much money City have spent and wasted on absolutely useless players since Shielk Mansour bought the club? The figure is in the £100’s of millions. And you’re still banging on about saving £10mill. FFS, give it up!
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Yup
 
blueparrot said:
You minsinterpreted. He was just showing the 15 mill isn’t peanuts and is probably about 25% of our profits annually. do that on 3 or 4 transfers and it is unaffordable. For this I expect we’ll pay it but it shouldn’t be without proper consideration.
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If we paid the extra £15mil and gave him a 5 year deal the affect on the annual profits would be £3mil a year.
 
Paulmcfc2703 said:
If we paid the extra £15mil and gave him a 5 year deal the affect on the annual profits would be £3mil a year.
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Yes ,and the club will decide whether they do or don’t pay that 3 mill. As they have been neither negligent nor reckless with our finances and increased our financial position, best left to them.
 
blueparrot said:
Yes ,and the club will decide whether they do or don’t pay that 3 mill. As they have been neither negligent nor reckless with our finances and increased our financial position, best left to them.
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I think it's more a case that we struggle to negotiate the big transfer when a release clause isn't an option.
 
jrb said:
You do realise how much money City have spent and wasted on absolutely useless players since Shielk Mansour bought the club? The figure is in the £100’s of millions. And you’re still banging on about saving £10mill. FFS, give it up!
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Lets make a list..

Robinho 43 mil
Bridge 13 mil
Adebayor 29 mil
Santa Cruz 21 mil
Garcia 20 mil

That's just the first 5 years

But we've gotten a lot smarter since Txiki came.

And probably the reason Txiki has stayed so long as well.
 
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