Josko Gvardiol

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GoatersLeftShin said:
I can't think of many - if any - players that Pep hasn't improved. He's the greatest coach of all time in my opinion and he's taken 'ordinary players' and transformed them into world class players - Ederson, Stones, Dias, Rodri, KdB and Bernardo weren't regarded as top class when they arrived and they've gone through the roof thanks to Pep's coaching.

I only saw Gvardiol "play" against Haaland. In truth, Haaland could've been marked by peak Kompany, Moore and Maldini that night and he'd still have got a hat-trick. He's the greatest striker in the world by some distance and is impossible to play against when he's like he is at the moment. I can't judge any player in a game like that.

If Pep wants Gvardiol, I GUARANTEE that within 18 months he will be the best defender in the world.
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After Dias ;-)
 
salfordbluetrue said:
Some players you can see the failures and how to improve them, he is a good player but he is not going to grow an inch and become commanding in the air , he is not going to get faster to play the high back line, he is a follower not a leader at the moment, reaction, first touch normaly decide how far you go, not all players improve with age/experience, he is as good as he is going to get for me.
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If all that you are saying is true the club won't be looking at him.
 
salfordbluetrue said:
Some players you can see the failures and how to improve them, he is a good player but he is not going to grow an inch and become commanding in the air , he is not going to get faster to play the high back line, he is a follower not a leader at the moment, reaction, first touch normaly decide how far you go, not all players improve with age/experience, he is as good as he is going to get for me.
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That's a bold claim to make mate... He's 22 & has all the raw materials of a top class centre back. I don't get how you can sense he's at his peak now & will never improve further? \0/
 
simon23 said:
I get what your saying but I think Akanji is also underrated...I think he is a very good 1vs1 defender.....positionally suspect at times and lacks a little concentration (part of the same thing I guess) but he has some very strong attributes.
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I really liked him at the start but his lack of concentration scares me.
 
RayCTID said:
Why overpay for a defender who still has only potential
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What do you suggest considering Laporte more than likely leaves, Akanji is ok at best as a backup, Ake plays mostly at LB and Stones' injury record means he misses half the season? We will be desperate for a world class CB next season and this guy ticks all the boxes.
 
Every time I've seen this guy, which isn't an awful lot admittedly, he's been bang average. Another de Lijt hype job perhaps.
 

salfordbluetrue said:
Gone up a level from where? from when he was a bit part CB player at City? or a rock CB at Bournmouth? or a superb LB at Chelsea? Ake is mearly showing why we bought him now he is getting regular game time. But it is interesting that it was his shoulders Gvardiol was climbing on ( a foul not given ) when he scored. Chelsea came in for Ake during the summer, and City refused to sell.
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he climbed on rubens shoulders btw

 
Dribble said:
That's a bold claim to make mate... He's 22 & has all the raw materials of a top class centre back. I don't get how you can sense he's at his peak now & will never improve further? \0/
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IMO you’re right Mr D, might well improve further but the posters also right inasmuch as players suddenly growing taller and / or suddenly getting fast after the age of 22 isn’t something that see.
His tactical awareness, ball control, decision making etc. should improve but the fact is that he might actually be at his peak, plenty of players are lauded as future stars until they’re 22 but then sink without trace.
I’d also argue that him being not particularly fast and not particularly tall means that he doesn’t have “all the raw materials” / there are some raw materials that he’ll never have.

From the little that I’ve seen of him he can look fantastic when things are going right for him and lost & confused when they ain’t.

I’m trusting our recruitment team to go through his development stats with a fine toothed comb and not just cough up a big wedge on the basis of him being the latest hyped up player.
If we put a bid in then we’ll know that those who know better than us have looked through the data we can’t see and come to a value judgement that we’re not equipped to make.

Exciting times eh?
 
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