Jude Bellingham

Having seen some of his games this season I can't believe he got La Liga player of the season.
Couple that with not turning up for England (he's literally ambled around and generally got in the way of Foden and Kane - lets not mention his "passing"), and I like most on here wonder where this Generational talent is???
 
SWP's back said:
He’s absolutely bang average. Ruining this England team by playing at 10.
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Defences should be petrified of your number 10.

Phil must be horrible to play against because he can take the ball so quickly and be running at you on the edge of your box within a split second. You don't get time to think and he's already in control.

Defences don't seem arsed about Bellingham. He can't receive the ball and turn quickly, he's not particularly quick or agile either. They can just shepherd him out and force him to pass backwards. It's easy work for them.

But as I said, Waistcoat is in awe of him and shit scared to move him.
 
Played 3 games in no.10 position and created zero chances yet the media are still clamouring for him to start ahead of Foden in that position and to drop Phil to fit Palmer & Gordon in.
 
Bluesince1979 said:
This is correct. Keep reading about how amazing this group of players. There isnt one thats world class.
We are biased about foden but hes surrounded by top players weekly. Now hes got tripper leathering the ball at him.

Players like saka, rice, bellingham, trippier, giehi, stones.. they are GOOD! But no more than that.
Gallagher is crap.
Kane and walker look as though they have lost a yard

Throw in southgate and we are getting what the sum parts are capable of
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You can go a long way if you play as a team and even win it, but England is not together as a group and have a manager that nobody believes in, But the media hype around Bellingham and others only does one thing and that puts a wedge between the rest of the players.

Foden is also a big problem and you saw it last night when Southgate took him off, That smile is off somebody who knows the manager does not know what he is doing, Bellingham for most of the game last night was waving his arms, shouting, pointing, and just giving up.

So the problem that everybody is watching is media hype and blowing smoke up people's arse and they believe it
This group of players all believe they are world-class and the best,

This is going to sound daft, But I believe Jose Mourinho would win the tournament and the World Cup with the best players England has on offer, Why ?? that's simple, Jose believes he is the biggest and best manager in the world and that would put the players in their places, NOBODY would be bigger than the media hype he gets
 
Being a bit unfair to Bellingham here. He has had a great season in the 10 but the team has been completely supporting him. However of late he's been distinctly average, hes brought that form into the Euros and waistcoat has done nothing about it. The kid needs some guidance here, he needs to be pushed back into a control role and given an actual plan for what he needs to do in game. Throughout this tournament, including last night, the guy is pressing alone and running beyond Kane then giving up. There is no way any team can support that, the problem isn't one player but he is having a knock on affect here.
 
Crooked_rain said:
Defences should be petrified of your number 10.

Phil must be horrible to play against because he can take the ball so quickly and be running at you on the edge of your box within a split second. You don't get time to think and he's already in control.

Defences don't seem arsed about Bellingham. He can't receive the ball and turn quickly, he's not particularly quick or agile either. They can just shepherd him out and force him to pass backwards. It's easy work for them.

But as I said, Waistcoat is in awe of him and shit scared to move him.
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You want Bellingham deeper. He's solid on the ball so even though his touch can let him down, he can get his body in the way. He can drive with it, and he's got the timing to get into the box to score plus a big engine. You want Phil as the 10 with all the freedom to roam. He operates in tight areas, sees the bigger picture and can turn and instantly make things happen.

Why Bellingham isn't being tried as Rice's partner I don't know. We've scored one goal so far. It came from Foden in the 10, Saka attacking space and then Bellingham, from deep, timing a run into the box. Take that and make it work by switching out TAA/Gallagher/Mainoo for someone wide left and pushing Bellingham and Phil into their best positions.

We can't play this hybrid system with them rotating between the 10 and wide left role. It doesn't work. Bellingham as a 10 is used to Vinicius and Rodrygo bombing into space ahead. He doesn't have that in this side. Phil in the 10 is used to intricate link up play, which is more like what we see with England.

Southgate wants the system he's always had where we switch between high pressing and then dropping off and counter attacking. But Kane is excellent at dropping into the 10 space and playing people in behind...he needs people making those runs so you need Saka and someone wide left that isn't Foden.

He might as well fucking try it!
 
ancoats said:
You can go a long way if you play as a team and even win it, but England is not together as a group and have a manager that nobody believes in, But the media hype around Bellingham and others only does one thing and that puts a wedge between the rest of the players.

Foden is also a big problem and you saw it last night when Southgate took him off, That smile is off somebody who knows the manager does not know what he is doing, Bellingham for most of the game last night was waving his arms, shouting, pointing, and just giving up.

So the problem that everybody is watching is media hype and blowing smoke up people's arse and they believe it
This group of players all believe they are world-class and the best,

This is going to sound daft, But I believe Jose Mourinho would win the tournament and the World Cup with the best players England has on offer, Why ?? that's simple, Jose believes he is the biggest and best manager in the world and that would put the players in their places, NOBODY would be bigger than the media hype he gets
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Jude McManaman
 
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