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aguero93:20 said:
Feed the Elk said:
oakiecokie said:
Meaning what exactly.His manner or his footballing "blandness" ! Some fuckers are never satisfied !!!

Meaning someone with more of an engaging personality!

I have no qualms with his football or his preference for two up front, it's not like we;re in the bottom half of the table! It's purely a personal point of view, but if he was to leave tomorrow i wouldn't bat an eyelid whereas i did with Mancini and also Hughes and even Pearce to a certain extent (but not Sven!). I don't think that Pelly puts across his passion for the club and his ambitions for the club very well and i rarely sit and watch his interview or press conferences because he doesn't actually say very much!

I think that with the squad we've got and the resources we have access to, most top class managers could achieve a similar success to Pellegrini; don't forget that the principle reason that Pelly was hired was due to his relative success in the Champs league rather than his domestic prowess

Who gives a fuck what he says in press conferences?! Are you a journalist? I suppose you'd prefer 'Arry to Pelle with his dynamite player-dissing press conferences, edge of the seat car window interviews and dinosaur football?

No. I never mentioned 'arry - never been a fan of his clown bullshit.

The point i'm making is that Pellegrini isn't setting the world alight with his style of play; let's face it had it not been for Gerard's slip then it's likely that we wouldn't have won the league last season and he would have struggled to justify his position as manager with 'only' winning the league cup.
This season we have failed to push on from last season which is what i would expect we should be doing. He hasn't strengthened the squad sufficiently and should Aguero get injured, then we'd be fooked.

30 years following City and this is the first time that i haven't bothered to read or follow a manager's every word. Unfortunately he's the John Major of football management.
 
Len Rum said:
Feed the Elk said:
Wanted to resurrect this thread as he seems a real character; wouldn't mind him as next City manager after the blandness of Señor Pelly
Is this a follow up to your "He'll be gone by the morning" post after the Newcastle defeat?
Whatever your views on him show some respect to a manager who won us the Prem title and our first ever domestic trophy double.

Totally bizarre post. Pellegrini won us 2 trophies in his first season, his teams play exciting football, and yet we have a poster calling him bland. And if it's his personality that this poster is referring to, well I for one think he is anything but bland - he's a dignified and very likeable character, not to mention calmness personified when being interviewed. The "This Charming Man" banner sums him up perfectly for me.
 
Feed the Elk said:
aguero93:20 said:
Feed the Elk said:
Meaning someone with more of an engaging personality!

I have no qualms with his football or his preference for two up front, it's not like we;re in the bottom half of the table! It's purely a personal point of view, but if he was to leave tomorrow i wouldn't bat an eyelid whereas i did with Mancini and also Hughes and even Pearce to a certain extent (but not Sven!). I don't think that Pelly puts across his passion for the club and his ambitions for the club very well and i rarely sit and watch his interview or press conferences because he doesn't actually say very much!

I think that with the squad we've got and the resources we have access to, most top class managers could achieve a similar success to Pellegrini; don't forget that the principle reason that Pelly was hired was due to his relative success in the Champs league rather than his domestic prowess

Who gives a fuck what he says in press conferences?! Are you a journalist? I suppose you'd prefer 'Arry to Pelle with his dynamite player-dissing press conferences, edge of the seat car window interviews and dinosaur football?

No. I never mentioned 'arry - never been a fan of his clown bullshit.

The point i'm making is that Pellegrini isn't setting the world alight with his style of play; let's face it had it not been for Gerard's slip then it's likely that we wouldn't have won the league last season and he would have struggled to justify his position as manager with 'only' winning the league cup.
This season we have failed to push on from last season which is what i would expect we should be doing. He hasn't strengthened the squad sufficiently and should Aguero get injured, then we'd be fooked.

30 years following City and this is the first time that i haven't bothered to read or follow a manager's every word. Unfortunately he's the John Major of football management.
We've had managers who couldn't keep their gobs shut in front of the press, and lit fires which the press fanned.

The press need to know nothing but the bare facts or they will spin what you say into negative headlines.

He's there to win football matches.
 
Sometimes I love Bluemoon more than other times. This is a proper "I love Bluemoon" moment.

I'm going to go with what someone up there said - Mario for Manager. Imagine the press conferences!
 
Feed the Elk said:
aguero93:20 said:
Feed the Elk said:
Meaning someone with more of an engaging personality!

I have no qualms with his football or his preference for two up front, it's not like we;re in the bottom half of the table! It's purely a personal point of view, but if he was to leave tomorrow i wouldn't bat an eyelid whereas i did with Mancini and also Hughes and even Pearce to a certain extent (but not Sven!). I don't think that Pelly puts across his passion for the club and his ambitions for the club very well and i rarely sit and watch his interview or press conferences because he doesn't actually say very much!

I think that with the squad we've got and the resources we have access to, most top class managers could achieve a similar success to Pellegrini; don't forget that the principle reason that Pelly was hired was due to his relative success in the Champs league rather than his domestic prowess

Who gives a fuck what he says in press conferences?! Are you a journalist? I suppose you'd prefer 'Arry to Pelle with his dynamite player-dissing press conferences, edge of the seat car window interviews and dinosaur football?

No. I never mentioned 'arry - never been a fan of his clown bullshit.

The point i'm making is that Pellegrini isn't setting the world alight with his style of play; let's face it had it not been for Gerard's slip then it's likely that we wouldn't have won the league last season and he would have struggled to justify his position as manager with 'only' winning the league cup.
This season we have failed to push on from last season which is what i would expect we should be doing. He hasn't strengthened the squad sufficiently and should Aguero get injured, then we'd be fooked.

30 years following City and this is the first time that i haven't bothered to read or follow a manager's every word. Unfortunately he's the John Major of football management.

I could pull out a thousand instances where we were unlucky last season that 'if it hadn't been for' we wouldn't have needed Chelsea to do us a favour that day
-If Nasty and Hart hadn't fucked up in Stamford Bridge
-If we'd had a non-corrupt referee at Anfield
-If Fernandinho hadn't slipped at the Emirates and let Flamini get the shot away for the equaliser

etc etc etc etc

YOU WIN NOTHING WITHOUT A BIT OF LUCK, NO MATTER WHO YOU ARE.

-If the scum hadn't collapsed against Everton in 2012
-If Defoe hadn't missed the open goal in Eastlands, same season
-If Begovic hadn't let a Yaya shot go straight through his hands in the Britannia.

You could turn all those things around and say them about our last manager, you could even say them about Mercer in '68. In fact, you can say them about every single side to win the Champion's League in the last 20 years bar arguably Barcelona in '94 and '11.

The fact remains that we finished top, because we matched Pool's atacking prowess but we were better defensively and we had far more firepower than the Chavs, ie we fucking deserved it and Manuel should get the credit he deserves for that. not be disparaged on here by you because you want us to get a fucking comedian in as manager.
 
I think the OP raises a fair point, MP is boring, his sound bites are boring and he doesn't engage the fan base in the same way as previous managers. Personally I think that there are good points and bad to that, the good being that you know he won't say any incendiary comments or that when he does they will be well though out (the ref vs Barcelona for example). On the negative side, his press conferences are not that interesting because he will stick to the script. Again, I have no problem with this but can see why others do.
 
Get Mario Balotelli to do press conferences. Then some will be happy probably. Mind boggles.

Also the style of play is dictated by Director of Football, that way comes the stability, not within manager. So what I am saying that the style of play is basically the same regardless of who is coaching us. Other clubs build their stability around manager, but that is not sustainable.
 
aguero93:20 said:
Feed the Elk said:
aguero93:20 said:
Who gives a fuck what he says in press conferences?! Are you a journalist? I suppose you'd prefer 'Arry to Pelle with his dynamite player-dissing press conferences, edge of the seat car window interviews and dinosaur football?

No. I never mentioned 'arry - never been a fan of his clown bullshit.

The point i'm making is that Pellegrini isn't setting the world alight with his style of play; let's face it had it not been for Gerard's slip then it's likely that we wouldn't have won the league last season and he would have struggled to justify his position as manager with 'only' winning the league cup.
This season we have failed to push on from last season which is what i would expect we should be doing. He hasn't strengthened the squad sufficiently and should Aguero get injured, then we'd be fooked.

30 years following City and this is the first time that i haven't bothered to read or follow a manager's every word. Unfortunately he's the John Major of football management.

I could pull out a thousand instances where we were unlucky last season that 'if it hadn't been for' we wouldn't have needed Chelsea to do us a favour that day
-If Nasty and Hart hadn't fucked up in Stamford Bridge
-If we'd had a non-corrupt referee at Anfield
-If Fernandinho hadn't slipped at the Emirates and let Flamini get the shot away for the equaliser

etc etc etc etc

YOU WIN NOTHING WITHOUT A BIT OF LUCK, NO MATTER WHO YOU ARE.

-If the scum hadn't collapsed against Everton in 2012
-If Defoe hadn't missed the open goal in Eastlands, same season
-If Begovic hadn't let a Yaya shot go straight through his hands in the Britannia.

You could turn all those things around and say them about our last manager, you could even say them about Mercer in '68. In fact, you can say them about every single side to win the Champion's League in the last 20 years bar arguably Barcelona in '94 and '11.

The fact remains that we finished top, because we matched Pool's atacking prowess but we were better defensively and we had far more firepower than the Chavs, ie we fucking deserved it and Manuel should get the credit he deserves for that. not be disparaged on here by you because you want us to get a fucking comedian in as manager.

You're right - Mourinho was very lucky to have strengthened by bringing in Fabregas, Costa, Matic and insisting on Courtois being his number one keeper.

I'm not a Pellegrini out by any stretches of the imagination. He's been a welcome relief after the fireworks of Mancini, but as a club we seem to have gone from one extreme to the other. I'm more than happy to amble along in the top 2 or 3 and compete in the Champs league and domestic cups. You won't find me throwing my toys out of the pram if we don't win the league this season or even next but i would like a manager, a leader, a symbol of the club, who is willing to engage more with the fans as the next City manager. And maybe Klopp is perhaps someone in between the histrionics of Mancini and the greyness of Pellegrini once Pellegrini inevitably moves on.
 
With the minority on this one I'm afraid. Rather than the cool, calm collected Pellegrini, we definitely need a manager with no control over his emotions, the owners love that stuff.
 
TFC said:
With the minority on this one I'm afraid. Rather than the cool, calm collected Pellegrini, we definitely need a manager with no control over his emotions, the owners love that stuff.
Let's get Di Canio
 
Feed the Elk said:
aguero93:20 said:
Feed the Elk said:
Meaning someone with more of an engaging personality!

I have no qualms with his football or his preference for two up front, it's not like we;re in the bottom half of the table! It's purely a personal point of view, but if he was to leave tomorrow i wouldn't bat an eyelid whereas i did with Mancini and also Hughes and even Pearce to a certain extent (but not Sven!). I don't think that Pelly puts across his passion for the club and his ambitions for the club very well and i rarely sit and watch his interview or press conferences because he doesn't actually say very much!

I think that with the squad we've got and the resources we have access to, most top class managers could achieve a similar success to Pellegrini; don't forget that the principle reason that Pelly was hired was due to his relative success in the Champs league rather than his domestic prowess

Who gives a fuck what he says in press conferences?! Are you a journalist? I suppose you'd prefer 'Arry to Pelle with his dynamite player-dissing press conferences, edge of the seat car window interviews and dinosaur football?

No. I never mentioned 'arry - never been a fan of his clown bullshit.

The point i'm making is that Pellegrini isn't setting the world alight with his style of play; let's face it had it not been for Gerard's slip then it's likely that we wouldn't have won the league last season and he would have struggled to justify his position as manager with 'only' winning the league cup.
This season we have failed to push on from last season which is what i would expect we should be doing. He hasn't strengthened the squad sufficiently and should Aguero get injured, then we'd be fooked.

30 years following City and this is the first time that i haven't bothered to read or follow a manager's every word. Unfortunately he's the John Major of football management.
WTF?
If Bayern hadn't hit the woodwork four times in 1999 or if Terry hadn't hit the post in the penalty shoot out in 2008 then the Rags would have failed to win the champs league twice, oh and if Athletico could have just held on for a minute longer last season then Real Madrid would then have failed for 11 years to win the Champs league. So using your logic Ferguson and Ancelotti are considered failures in Europe cos they got lucky?
Criticise Pellegrini him if you want, but give him credit for his achievements and don't use stupid WUM arguments.
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
Brendan Rodgers could be out of a job soon, he talks a good game.

When you're not distracted from his fecking teeth.

Better to talk the talk, than walk the walk.

I like Brendan's teeth. If mine ever get any worse I'm gonna find out who redid his and make the investment. Who knows I might even be able bag myself a blonde scouse housewife with some new Rodgers endorsed gnashers!
 
Mister Appointment said:
tolmie's hairdoo said:
Brendan Rodgers could be out of a job soon, he talks a good game.

When you're not distracted from his fecking teeth.

Better to talk the talk, than walk the walk.

I like Brendan's teeth. If mine ever get any worse I'm gonna find out who redid his and make the investment. Who knows I might even be able bag myself a blonde scouse housewife with some new Rodgers endorsed gnashers!

Make sure her hands aren't too big.
 
yeah lets get Kloop for January and February then someone else for the last few months of the season. Laughing stocks of the prem here we come.

Stick with Pele, he has won the title and cup, the season is still young and we're doing as well as we did last year.

1 trophy per year, else get someone new, that's the deal isn't it?! Do we sack someone midway through the year because he hasn't won anything yet?

Crazy talk imo
 
Mister Appointment said:
tolmie's hairdoo said:
Brendan Rodgers could be out of a job soon, he talks a good game.

When you're not distracted from his fecking teeth.

Better to talk the talk, than walk the walk.

I like Brendan's teeth. If mine ever get any worse I'm gonna find out who redid his and make the investment. Who knows I might even be able bag myself a blonde scouse housewife with some new Rodgers endorsed gnashers!


A scouse housewife?

Scag instead of Wag, eh!
 
Feed the Elk said:
aguero93:20 said:
Feed the Elk said:
No. I never mentioned 'arry - never been a fan of his clown bullshit.

The point i'm making is that Pellegrini isn't setting the world alight with his style of play; let's face it had it not been for Gerard's slip then it's likely that we wouldn't have won the league last season and he would have struggled to justify his position as manager with 'only' winning the league cup.
This season we have failed to push on from last season which is what i would expect we should be doing. He hasn't strengthened the squad sufficiently and should Aguero get injured, then we'd be fooked.

30 years following City and this is the first time that i haven't bothered to read or follow a manager's every word. Unfortunately he's the John Major of football management.

I could pull out a thousand instances where we were unlucky last season that 'if it hadn't been for' we wouldn't have needed Chelsea to do us a favour that day
-If Nasty and Hart hadn't fucked up in Stamford Bridge
-If we'd had a non-corrupt referee at Anfield
-If Fernandinho hadn't slipped at the Emirates and let Flamini get the shot away for the equaliser

etc etc etc etc

YOU WIN NOTHING WITHOUT A BIT OF LUCK, NO MATTER WHO YOU ARE.

-If the scum hadn't collapsed against Everton in 2012
-If Defoe hadn't missed the open goal in Eastlands, same season
-If Begovic hadn't let a Yaya shot go straight through his hands in the Britannia.

You could turn all those things around and say them about our last manager, you could even say them about Mercer in '68. In fact, you can say them about every single side to win the Champion's League in the last 20 years bar arguably Barcelona in '94 and '11.

The fact remains that we finished top, because we matched Pool's atacking prowess but we were better defensively and we had far more firepower than the Chavs, ie we fucking deserved it and Manuel should get the credit he deserves for that. not be disparaged on here by you because you want us to get a fucking comedian in as manager.

You're right - Mourinho was very lucky to have strengthened by bringing in Fabregas, Costa, Matic and insisting on Courtois being his number one keeper.

I'm not a Pellegrini out by any stretches of the imagination. He's been a welcome relief after the fireworks of Mancini, but as a club we seem to have gone from one extreme to the other. I'm more than happy to amble along in the top 2 or 3 and compete in the Champs league and domestic cups. You won't find me throwing my toys out of the pram if we don't win the league this season or even next but i would like a manager, a leader, a symbol of the club, who is willing to engage more with the fans as the next City manager. And maybe Klopp is perhaps someone in between the histrionics of Mancini and the greyness of Pellegrini once Pellegrini inevitably moves on.

He was very lucky that Chelsea were more established than us at the time FFP came in and they weren't operating in the transfer market with tied hands, he was also lucky the scum and PSG paid him ludicrous money for Mata and Luiz allowing him to spend. He also blew the league last year with 6/7 games to go by getting his tactics disastrously wrong against Villa and Palace. Unlike our manager, who won the league.
 
Feed the Elk said:
aguero93:20 said:
Feed the Elk said:
No. I never mentioned 'arry - never been a fan of his clown bullshit.

The point i'm making is that Pellegrini isn't setting the world alight with his style of play; let's face it had it not been for Gerard's slip then it's likely that we wouldn't have won the league last season and he would have struggled to justify his position as manager with 'only' winning the league cup.
This season we have failed to push on from last season which is what i would expect we should be doing. He hasn't strengthened the squad sufficiently and should Aguero get injured, then we'd be fooked.

30 years following City and this is the first time that i haven't bothered to read or follow a manager's every word. Unfortunately he's the John Major of football management.

I could pull out a thousand instances where we were unlucky last season that 'if it hadn't been for' we wouldn't have needed Chelsea to do us a favour that day
-If Nasty and Hart hadn't fucked up in Stamford Bridge
-If we'd had a non-corrupt referee at Anfield
-If Fernandinho hadn't slipped at the Emirates and let Flamini get the shot away for the equaliser

etc etc etc etc

YOU WIN NOTHING WITHOUT A BIT OF LUCK, NO MATTER WHO YOU ARE.

-If the scum hadn't collapsed against Everton in 2012
-If Defoe hadn't missed the open goal in Eastlands, same season
-If Begovic hadn't let a Yaya shot go straight through his hands in the Britannia.

You could turn all those things around and say them about our last manager, you could even say them about Mercer in '68. In fact, you can say them about every single side to win the Champion's League in the last 20 years bar arguably Barcelona in '94 and '11.

The fact remains that we finished top, because we matched Pool's atacking prowess but we were better defensively and we had far more firepower than the Chavs, ie we fucking deserved it and Manuel should get the credit he deserves for that. not be disparaged on here by you because you want us to get a fucking comedian in as manager.

You're right - Mourinho was very lucky to have strengthened by bringing in Fabregas, Costa, Matic and insisting on Courtois being his number one keeper.

I'm not a Pellegrini out by any stretches of the imagination. He's been a welcome relief after the fireworks of Mancini, but as a club we seem to have gone from one extreme to the other. I'm more than happy to amble along in the top 2 or 3 and compete in the Champs league and domestic cups. You won't find me throwing my toys out of the pram if we don't win the league this season or even next but i would like a manager, a leader, a symbol of the club, who is willing to engage more with the fans as the next City manager. And maybe Klopp is perhaps someone in between the histrionics of Mancini and the greyness of Pellegrini once Pellegrini inevitably moves on.

People seem to see football and Manchester City as 'theirs'. So you get bizarre comments like this one, where someone cannot see beyond the tiny box of their own experience.

It's Danny Wilson's job to 'engage with the fans', not the manager's. He's there to engage with the players. The last time I heard this type of nonsense was Peter Swales saying that Mel Machin had no 'repartee with the fans' as an excuse to sack him.
 
Didsbury Dave said:
Feed the Elk said:
aguero93:20 said:
I could pull out a thousand instances where we were unlucky last season that 'if it hadn't been for' we wouldn't have needed Chelsea to do us a favour that day
-If Nasty and Hart hadn't fucked up in Stamford Bridge
-If we'd had a non-corrupt referee at Anfield
-If Fernandinho hadn't slipped at the Emirates and let Flamini get the shot away for the equaliser

etc etc etc etc

YOU WIN NOTHING WITHOUT A BIT OF LUCK, NO MATTER WHO YOU ARE.

-If the scum hadn't collapsed against Everton in 2012
-If Defoe hadn't missed the open goal in Eastlands, same season
-If Begovic hadn't let a Yaya shot go straight through his hands in the Britannia.

You could turn all those things around and say them about our last manager, you could even say them about Mercer in '68. In fact, you can say them about every single side to win the Champion's League in the last 20 years bar arguably Barcelona in '94 and '11.

The fact remains that we finished top, because we matched Pool's atacking prowess but we were better defensively and we had far more firepower than the Chavs, ie we fucking deserved it and Manuel should get the credit he deserves for that. not be disparaged on here by you because you want us to get a fucking comedian in as manager.

You're right - Mourinho was very lucky to have strengthened by bringing in Fabregas, Costa, Matic and insisting on Courtois being his number one keeper.

I'm not a Pellegrini out by any stretches of the imagination. He's been a welcome relief after the fireworks of Mancini, but as a club we seem to have gone from one extreme to the other. I'm more than happy to amble along in the top 2 or 3 and compete in the Champs league and domestic cups. You won't find me throwing my toys out of the pram if we don't win the league this season or even next but i would like a manager, a leader, a symbol of the club, who is willing to engage more with the fans as the next City manager. And maybe Klopp is perhaps someone in between the histrionics of Mancini and the greyness of Pellegrini once Pellegrini inevitably moves on.

People seem to see football and Manchester City as 'theirs'. So you get bizarre comments like this one, where someone cannot see beyond the tiny box of their own experience.

It's Danny Wilson's job to 'engage with the fans', not the manager's. He's there to engage with the players. The last time I heard this type of nonsense was Peter Swales saying that Mel Machin had no 'repartee with the fans' as an excuse to sack him.

Think i'm being clarkied here... well done lads!
 
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