Just Stop Oil protests

Think the judge is far more qualified than you to decide the appropriate sentence
Yes but the judge has NO CHOICE if alternatives are not available. You have no idea what the judge really thought was appropriate.
 
Look, there is a stack of research on how these programs work in Belgium, Spain and elsewhere. Instead of being needlessly negative, go and read it.
Facing facts isn't being negative, he'd had more than enough warnings he couldn't care less, and the root cause of climate change is us and unless some drastic decisions are taken it will only get worse. Chucking orange paint about and chaining yourself to the road ain't going to change anything.
 
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If' it's any consolation to those vexed by the time frame, do remember that they will only have to serve around 21 months. A very small price to pay for all the abject misery they have caused to our people and our country.

You could hand out as many community orders as as our governments patience would allow, and they still wouldn't heed to the voice of law. Fanatics to the cause that were already serving a suspended sentence.

After reading the Judges summation, the ruling was fair and proportionate, and hopefully this sends out a clear message to the other activists that may follow in their lead.
 
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Facing facts isn't being negative, he'd had more than enough warnings he couldn't care less, and the root cause of climate change is us and unless some drastic decisions are taken it will only get worse. Chucking orange paint about and chaining yourself to the road ain't going to change anything.
You’re not facing facts. You are passing an opinion which is fine but I don’t believe you have read the research on the subject and thus your opinion is more challengeable.
Start by googling SCCJR. Happy reading!
 
Facing facts isn't being negative, he'd had more than enough warnings he couldn't care less, and the root cause of climate change is us and unless some drastic decisions are taken it will only get worse. Chucking orange paint about and chaining yourself to the road ain't going to change anything.
We are talking about it, mainstream media are talking about it, that is what they want , a discussion on how we are destroying the planet , in future they will be regarded as being relevant
 
We should put together a proper community sentence system and possibly drug rehab instead of the ramshackle, almost voluntary, nonsense we have now. It would be an additional cost to start with but eventually we could reduce the prison population by 30,000, a long term big cost saving.
These oil protesters, for example, need reminding that they cannot freely disrupt other people’s lives, but prison is ridiculous. 500 hours serious community work, supervised, no get outs, would be much more sensible.
It wasn’t their first rodeo, hence the harsher sentence
 
We are talking about it, mainstream media are talking about it, that is what they want , a discussion on how we are destroying the planet , in future they will be regarded as being relevant
Yes but I asked some oil protestors how they transported all their equipment (cameras, megaphones, computers etc) into the city. Awkward silence. Thunberg gets about her city by oh driving her car. They are not angels!
 
With prison places down to the low hundreds it is ridiculous to give then 4/5 yrs , 1 yr suspended would have been better with a solid chunk of community service . In the not to distant future we will all be saying that their message was correct but not the way they protested when it came to the glueing themselves to the road
And what when they put two fingers up to doing community service?
 
Yes but I asked some oil protestors how they transported all their equipment (cameras, megaphones, computers etc) into the city. Awkward silence. Thunberg gets about her city by oh driving her car. They are not angels!
How are they expected to get around ? You cant blame them for doing normal things , you dont have to be an angel to highlight something , greta is doing a great thing spreading the word about the way we are destroying the planet , history will remember her
 
We are talking about it, mainstream media are talking about it, that is what they want , a discussion on how we are destroying the planet , in future they will be regarded as being relevant
That discussion has been going on for Donkeys years now. Instead of wasting time and money on these idiots it would be better spent on new energy efficient housing stock improving existing insulation improvement of Air source heating fitting solar to power the heat pumps introducing infrastructure for Electric vehicle's the lists endless these clowns aren't helping one Iota I'm afraid.
 

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