Kalvin Phillips | Joins City on a 6-year deal

[Gumzy97]

The price Frenkie de Jong is going for I’ve changed my mind 60 mil is ludicrous. When De Jong is there for 51 to 59 mil. Who’s triple the quality of Phillips

 

[Tugay One Cup]

Kelvin Phillips, Frankie de Jong and Erling Harland.

You know what to do, Pop.

 

[mj1991]

Well whether we sign him or not, and I'm not for it, at least the forum has concluded he is nothing more than a 6. Incredibly earlier today there were people on here suggesting he could play the 8 role! Sure we need a Fernandinho replacement but this fella is still a downgrade on prime Fernandinho for me, in that I don't think he could ever play emergency full back or centre half and I'm not sure he offers the much of a goal threat in the form of long shots that Fernandinho delivered. I suppose he could best be described as a modern day Nigel De Jong at a ridiculously expensive price?

This is exactly my point.
1) First of all. We have the thinnest squad in the league and we cannot have back-ups. It's quality>quantity for some time. A lot of good aspects, but also a lot of risks, we've seen that, especially against Real Madrid in the semi-final of CL.
2) What does BACK UP mean? We don't have backups in City, mostly because of having 17-18 players plus 3 goalkeepers. So it doesn't make any sense to sign backups for us, because everyone would be playing.
3) Why are we going to lose some quality in terms of signing an average player for 60M£? He is nothing special to me. What extra option is he giving us in terms of pure football skills? We can find exactly the same type of player for half of that price.
4) The main point is probably the dressing room. The fact that he would fit perfectly with Stones, Walker, Foden and especially Grealish, but is that worth overpaying for him 60M£?

 

[CWMCFC]

I like Philips, but £60m is ridiculous.

Pep/Tkixi know best etc but if De Jong ends up at United for a similar price (reportedly even less), I just fail to see the logic (granted, wages will be a lot higher in FDJ's case - but that's reflective in ability too).

This transfer smells of Ake - a good squad player that will do a job for us, but just not worth the value payed.

I suppose it doesn't really matter to us in the grand scheme of things, but for a board that's quite visibly sensitive about the media taking a pop at our spending, they don't help themselves at times.

Delaney knows nothing though, so will take with a pinch of salt until there are more concrete stories. It's clear we're trying to make this happen though.

 

[lol yank]

The price Frenkie de Jong is going for I’ve changed my mind 60 mil is ludicrous. When De Jong is there for 51 to 59 mil. Who’s triple the quality of Phillips

He’s more than triple the quality. He’s also way more versatile. It’s idiotic they’re “not interested”

 

[Tugay One Cup]

The price Frenkie de Jong is going for I’ve changed my mind 60 mil is ludicrous. When De Jong is there for 51 to 59 mil. Who’s triple the quality of Phillips

I held off saying this earlier because you're likely to get the "he's not a DM comments."

But, realistically, I think anyone claiming the drop off between Rodri and de Jong would be more significant than the drop off between Rodri and Kalvin Phillips is kidding themselves.

Plus, we get an extra body in centre mid.

Plus plus, he's actually a quality player.

 

[Retro_Citizens]

Yeah de jong for 60M. That's the moment i tought we really are overpaying for philips

 

[oakiecokie]

I’m talking about the last two years.

Those last two years where we`ve been the PL Champions ? We only signed Grealish last season and the season before we had Cancello plus others including Ake who has never let us down.

 

[Gumzy97]

I held off saying this earlier because you're likely to get the "he's not a DM comments."

But, realistically, I think anyone claiming the drop off between Rodri and de Jong would be more significant than the drop off between Rodri and Kalvin Phillips is kidding themselves.

Plus, we get an extra body in centre mid.

Plus plus, he's actually a quality player.

I’ve said this before De Jongs eye for a pass is scarily similar to Kevin’s.

 

[Tugay One Cup]

I’ve said this before De Jongs eye for a pass is scarily similar to Kevin’s.

Passing, vision, dribbling, great driving forward, brilliant in tight spaces, deceptively quick and positionally aware.

He is a fucking terrific player.

 

[CatMan]

You decided was only a 6. The rest of us thought it was a stupid comment.

That's right, he is only a 6, nothing more! Do you struggle with comprehension or something?

You clearly believe he can play elsewhere. Quite where I have no bloody idea!

 

[samuelyeboah]

I held off saying this earlier because you're likely to get the "he's not a DM comments."

But, realistically, I think anyone claiming the drop off between Rodri and de Jong would be more significant than the drop off between Rodri and Kalvin Phillips is kidding themselves.

Plus, we get an extra body in centre mid.

Plus plus, he's actually a quality player.

I would be okay with getting de jong to provide "cover" for the 6 position in some games and rotate in the 8 position for others.

 

[mj1991]

I want to say all day that we overpaid for philips if the fee is 60M. But city always gets it right. Idk how. Maybe not as good as liverpool but we really do. I trust our scouts.

When we signed dias for 60M. More than half of our fanbase were craving for overpaying. Look at him now.

Same for cancelo when we paid 50M. He did need some time but now he's the best lb in the league.

Kdb a chelsea reject. 65M. Similar but now he is the best player in the league.


I trust our system and there were only few failures (mendy, Mangala) other than that some may insist jack but be patient like we did with cancelo. Jack will perform

Gosh, why are u comparing Cancelo who was a player for Juventus and Inter, top Italian sides, and Ruben Dias who has been the best defender during the Nations League in 2019 to Kalvin Phillips? Just not the same level ;)

 

[Trickyblues]

Can people stop bringing up bissouma ffs. He’s currently under investigation for sexual assault.

 

[Mr-Mertle]

Where has 60 million come from? Or are some mad over nothing.

 

[Gumzy97]

The reason Kalvin is 60 mil is simple. He’s an English international and he’s a prem player.

De Jong is three times the player Phillips is.

 

[mj1991]

I would be okay with getting de jong to provide "cover" for the 6 position in some games and rotate in the 8 position for others.

Why are you thinking about a potential midfielder transfer as a cover and making some rotation in the 8 position? Back-Up in City doesn't exists, we need a potential starting player also for the future, especially after paying 60M£ lol

 

[Gaz (FMwkdsoul)]

Where has 60 million come from? Or are some mad over nothing.

Delaney. "A deal possibly up to 60m". So naturally its 60m

 

[Tugay One Cup]

I would be okay with getting de jong to provide "cover" for the 6 position in some games and rotate in the 8 position for others.

It just makes total sense with an ageing Gundogan and even Kev. Fill in for Rodri when we need him to, have him play as an eight at other times and then see who is available next year.

But I'll shut up now before I derail the thread.

He is a totally different level of player though and would fit us like a glove. Shame if we let him go down the road.

Okay, now I'll stop.

please Txiki

 

[Jack74]

This forum is obsessed with x the player