Kalvin Phillips

[Bigga]

Don’t worry as I won’t do the same to you in case he doesn’t. I’m not here to prove a point but to see the club do well

I'm not the one demanding players leave.

I'm open to players staying (including Cancelo) and hope BOTH the players and club do well.

 

[BrazilianGus]

I'm not the one demanding players leave.

I'm open to players staying (including Cancelo) and hope BOTH the players and club do well.

I’m not demanding he leave either — I wish I had that power. I am saying that would be the best thing for the club. Better than leave the manager stuck with a player he doesn’t trust when the alternative already left. But… oh well

 

[Worsleyweb]

Just not seeing it

 

[Withnail]

I’m not demanding he leave either — I wish I had that power. I am saying that would be the best thing for the club. Better than leave the manager stuck with a player he doesn’t trust when the alternative already left. But… oh well

No one on here is privy to Pep's conversations with Phillips with reference to his playing opportunities this coming season. Obviously, there was a trust element last season and time will tell if that still applies this season, however you would like to think the slate is wiped clean and KP will be given more game time than last season if he proves himself in training . Given Phillips lack of desire to leave, maybe Pep has indicated he still has a future at City.

 

[BrazilianGus]

you would like to think the slate is wiped clean

The way you talk it’s like Pep holds a grudge against him

 

[blueparrot]

The way you talk it’s like Pep holds a grudge against him

You said Pep doesn’t trust him, nobody said he has a grudge against him.

 

[Any1aBlue]

he was not too bad. at the moment his problem is in his head and decision making. needs to concentrate on every touch.

It’s not just in his head unfortunately - it’s in his boots too. Rabbit in headlights comes to mind.

 

[Thaksinssoldier]

Today was concerning.

After last season and all of his talk I expected a real level up, but he’s out there completely frozen.

Look I slated Rodri and Ake, so I get it that it takes time to bed in, and in Ake’s case it was certainly consecutive games. But neither of those looked this off of it.

I think he’s a career defining week ahead of him, I would be stunned if Pep sees two more performances like that and doesn’t move him on.

 

[Any1aBlue]

Phillips absolutely ran the show for Leeds. He was their Rodri.

Different circumstances at City, but there is still a good player in there.

He ran the show for Leeds when they played lesser teams, not when he played against the top six. There isn’t a good player in there - there’s an average one who should be playing for an average team where the pressure is less. He needs to go for his sake as well as ours.

 

[Withnail]

The way you talk it’s like Pep holds a grudge against him

Grudge is pushing it, but as you mentioned there are some trust issues.

 

[hihosilva]

For me he looses possession too easily & doesn't have the pace to recover.

 

[waspish]

I have the feeling pep will play him the first half dozen games he will have to show pep he has learned of not he be on the bench and out the door January

 

[mrtwiceaseason]

For me, he is not a DM…

For me he is not a premiership footballer.......

 

[BlueMonkey79]

He looks like a player that has won a raffle to play for City.

He is completely out if his depth in our team. Looks like a rabbit in the headlights.

 

[K-Bo]

The giveaways in his position are absolutely lethal, i think there are some things he does well, but can't have a 6 that gives the ball away inside his own half three times a game.

That has to stop and it has to stop very soon, if it's still happening once the competitive games start he won't get minutes.

 

[ChicagoBlue]

I like that he quickly realize he might be in offside position so he step back allowing Julian shoot and his goal is allowed.

Haha! That’s not what happened, but….smh

 

[skillman]

He just seems to…lackadaisical which is the opposite of what I thought he’d be when we got him.

The second goal today was him miscontrolling it, then jogging following a player to the wing before lazily jumping into midfield to a ball he was never going to get.

Yes it’s a pre-season but those are things that come with ability to read situations and the game, not fitness (IMO anyway) given how often we’ve seen it since he signed.

Hope it works out for him personally, think there’s something there to offer us but there’s not many positive signs.

 

[balotelli's back pocket]

I just find it weird how posters are pointing to the last four 'meaningless' games Phillips played in the season and don't seem to factor in that, over the course of the season, h probably turned out above average for appearances min-wise in a first season under Guardiola.

So, all the 2-15 min cameos over a season that usually happens came in a range of games.

Last season was the first time Guardiola, that I can recall, used players from the bench with 20 or more mins left in the game.

You're not serious?

He played 593 minutes last season.

Sergio Gomez played 971.

In Grealish's first season he played 2730.

In Rodri's first season he played 3711.

I could go on.

Angelino played 892 minutes in 19/20, and he left for Leipzig in the January window.

Even Rodwell played 607 minutes in 12/13.

As far as I can tell, the last first team signing to play less minutes than Phillips during their first season at the club was Scott Sinclair.

 

[wolfie1988]

I think he'd better pushed higher up. He is too careless in possession to play that Rodri position where you are expected to be on the ball so much and receive it from every angle

 

[willipp]

For me he looses possession too easily & doesn't have the pace to recover.

Maybe, just maybe that will come with games. He has not really played for god knows how long and that takes its toll on any player. Needs to improve, but we have to give him a chance.