Lavinda Past
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I hope he comes good, but I really can't see him competing at elite level.
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You don't sign a number 6 for £45m with intentions for him to be anything other than Rodri's back up - especially when we don't have another natural DM in our squad.
If the only other defensive midfielder other than Rodri isn't his back up, what is he? A squad player that never plays (which was the case last season).
Phillips' issue is that we have versatile players who are better than him at 6, whilst playing outside of their natural position.
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He isn’t good enough for us. Didn’t show anything at all last season and I’m not hopeful for this one. I’m sure if we could find someone to buy him, he would be gone.
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Played some nice passes against Munich
Its hard for him because he isn't getting run of games
I hope Pep will trust him more this season.
Its hard for him because he isn't getting run of games
I hope Pep will trust him more this season.
Rodri 21/22 was fantastic, he had lapses in concentration thoughJust for some context on our BM scouting gurus some still posting today.
16 | Rodri - 2021/22 Performances
Sometimes slow to release the ball or plays it backwards instead of forward when there’s a pass on. Nonetheless, I’ll leave my flapping till he’s ‘ready’ and match sharp. First game back after all so it’s better he made the mistake today. Nonetheless, it seems like Fernandinho (who looked good)...forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk
“Oil tanker is faster than Rodri.
Get rid while we can.”
“Slow as piss this lad. He’ll never change”
“Plays far to slow, quicker he’s sold the better.”
“A liability as per. Surely Pep can see his glaring weakness. For fuck sake lad pass it forward “
“Hate to be harsh on a player, but Rodri is toilet and I can't believe we face another season this reliant on him. Fern's on his last legs and all we have is Rodri in that 6 role”
Not seen him play well once
Seen everyone else like palmer, bobb, Lewis, perrone…..even Gomez do something
But Phillips offers zero.
Positionally he seems to hide, he is never in space, it’s like he wants to stand next to opposition players so we pass to someone else
He is a mid to bottom half player West Ham or Fulham level
Overrated because of bielsa and Southgate
I could probably name 40 premier league players I’d take over him now!!
Seen everyone else like palmer, bobb, Lewis, perrone…..even Gomez do something
But Phillips offers zero.
Positionally he seems to hide, he is never in space, it’s like he wants to stand next to opposition players so we pass to someone else
He is a mid to bottom half player West Ham or Fulham level
Overrated because of bielsa and Southgate
I could probably name 40 premier league players I’d take over him now!!
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But how many of your choices would City take ?
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Pre-season was a chance for him to plant his flag in the ground, and he didn't take it. Now, if he earns the chance to play by impressing Pep in training and takes that chance when it comes, he can have a future here.
Otherwise, he'll be asking for a loan move in January to rescue his chances of getting in the England squad after spending another 6 months getting splinters in his arse. That wouldn't be good for either party.
Otherwise, he'll be asking for a loan move in January to rescue his chances of getting in the England squad after spending another 6 months getting splinters in his arse. That wouldn't be good for either party.
Lavinda Past
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If Phillips was prepared to move out of the comfortable chair he's apparently decided to sit himself in at City; probably quite a few.
He's a Championship player that we signed by mistake.
It doesn’t happen often these days in regards to getting it wrong in the transfer market but I fear that Kalvin just hasn’t got the overall quality required to play in this team. It’s no sleight on him because we are the best team on the planet. I don’t see him getting any serious minutes this season so I’d like to think both the club and player can work something out. Not going to slag him off. He seems a good kid, just a case of not quite being at the level required. Others who may have struggled at first in the past showed they had it in them to make the step up, ive just not seen much evidence from him so far, sadly.
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I'm sorry but I asked the OP who of the " 40 or so " players he suggested City would take.
But thanks for jumping in
Whilst he may not be upto City's level you last comment is crap, there will be plenty of PL clubs after his signature if he leaves.
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Lavinda Past
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He was a good player at Leeds. He looks like a fish out of water at City. It's a world of difference.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't recall there being plenty of PL clubs lining up to sign him when we got him.
He was a gamble that hasn't come off.
Lavinda Past
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Put your purse down Gladys.
I obviously meant that City would probably take quite a few of any 40 he could name, if the price was right.
Don't post on an open forum if you don't want other members to jump in...
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Pep wanted someone to cover Rodri and I'm sure Bielsa gave the stamp of approval and it went from there. It didn't really make sense at the time as his style of play was much more suited to Klopp and Liverpool. Win the ball back and fire it forwards to someone else. He wasn't the conductor of the orchestra like Rodri is, or like Rice has the potential to become.
However, we didn't need the cover for Rodri so all that Kalvin really cost us was the £40m and the league cup - as he was horrific in that game at Southampton. We'll sell him for £25-30m whenever we do - January probably - when he's had enough of being on the bench and Gareth has told him he won't be at the Euros unless he moves.
Kovacic looks capable of covering Rodri if needed and Perrone in time could do as well - I really like the look of him.
Until then, I'll support him and hope he can step up and play some sort of positive role for us, perhaps alongside Rodri.
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Thanks but still not a reply with specific names, although I failed to appreciate your ability to anticipate exactly what @Tb1981 thinks.
And nothing " obvious " in your reply either, but your input is invaluable even.................................. if uninvited on this occasion.
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I do feel for Phillips, the issues with fitness have set him back and I'm not sure he can recover from that at city add that to his lack of confidence to play his natural game is not helping him. I hope he turns it round, there's a good player in there with a great passing range, my feeling is its a step to far and we won't see the real phillips till he moves to another club playing week in week out.
Really want him to succeed, and I’m usually quite patient with new signings, but Phillips just looks miles off. Think it might be one of the very few times where the club got it wrong. Doesn’t look remotely close to the level required, there’s probably a reason to why Pep barely played him at all last season. If West Ham is still interested it’s something worth exploring
Not sure which clubs were interested at the time we bought him, but I think Villa, West Ham, Newcastle and possibly Liverpool would be interested if he wanted to leave now.