Kalvin Phillips

Mon Autre said:
Yep, and his stock is rock bottom following that stint at West Ham. Why would a midtable side want to commit £140k per week of their wage budget on him at this point?
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Because if he goes on loan he isn’t costing anyone a transfer fee for a potentially good centre mid if he can get his shit back together.
 
Rammy Blue said:
Because if he goes on loan he isn’t costing anyone a transfer fee for a potentially good centre mid if he can get his shit back together.
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It's a lot of money still for a lot of teams at the moment. I think most would prefer the potential of a younger player from the Championship or abroad. Hopefully there's a team around who will feel his skills (and limitations) fit their needs, but I expect the one's who would consider him would either lowball us, or are teams he wouldn't be keen on.
 
mattcity5 said:
It's a lot of money still for a lot of teams at the moment. I think most would prefer the potential of a younger player from the Championship or abroad. Hopefully there's a team around who will feel his skills (and limitations) fit their needs, but I expect the one's who would consider him would either lowball us, or are teams he wouldn't be keen on.
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Nah, even if we subsidise his wages slightly we will be shot of him easily enough.
 
Mon Autre said:
Yep, and his stock is rock bottom following that stint at West Ham. Why would a midtable side want to commit £140k per week of their wage budget on him at this point?
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I think I know the answer to why this and transfers like these happen.

Every top coach I've ever come across has "I can fix him" syndrome. They have this belief that they can polish up a rough diamond, especially one with great history, and make them into a star. Phillips isn't that far removed, somebody will take a punt on him.
 
Damocles said:
I think I know the answer to why this and transfers like these happen.

Every top coach I've ever come across has "I can fix him" syndrome. They have this belief that they can polish up a rough diamond, especially one with great history, and make them into a star. Phillips isn't that far removed, somebody will take a punt on him.
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I think they will too, but i think they will have us making a pretty big contribution to his wages.
 
Just watched the City visit to the hospital in America and the lad comes across well. Little kid gave him 25cents that said he was going to keep. Maybe it’ll be his lucky ‘quarter’ and he can win everyone over with some decent performances. Either that or he’ll be getting fit and moved on once we land back in blighty and have a few players back in the squad.
I, for one, wish the lad all the very best. It’ll be some turnaround if he can do it but if anyone can get the best out of someone it’s Pep.
** Mods there is no player thread for Kalvin. I didn’t want to tempt fate!!!
 
AshtonBlueMooner said:
Just watched the City visit to the hospital in America and the lad comes across well. Little kid gave him 25cents that said he was going to keep. Maybe it’ll be his lucky ‘quarter’ and he can win everyone over with some decent performances. Either that or he’ll be getting fit and moved on once we land back in blighty and have a few players back in the squad.
I, for one, wish the lad all the very best. It’ll be some turnaround if he can do it but if anyone can get the best out of someone it’s Pep.
** Mods there is no player thread for Kalvin. I didn’t want to tempt fate!!!
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Tbh I’d love to see him do well and am willing him on as he looks like he is taking his season seriously as he basically fucked uo his chance at a euro final so that must hurt . Do we give him another chance though .
 
Father Paul said:
His agent done an amazing job getting him his city contract. Not sure how we paid him so much for so long. For me he was never more than a stopgap. That and the Nunes transfer really baffle me. But I suppose you can't get them all right.
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I'm sure Pep thought Kalvin could deputise for Rodri, or even play alongside him.
Perhaps Pep was blinded by Bielsa's (relatively) successful style of football with Leeds ?
He has extolled the virtues of Bielsa, who is an interesting character.
Leeds certainly initially played enterprising, attacking football that entertained. Phillips was a crucial part of this.
Kalvin was also respected by Gareth Southgate and a key part of his midfield.
Every team make mistakes with signatures.
City under Pep, have done better than most...
 
Platt Lane 59 said:
I'm sure Pep thought Kalvin could deputise for Rodri, or even play alongside him.
Perhaps Pep was blinded by Bielsa's (relatively) successful style of football with Leeds ?
He has extolled the virtues of Bielsa, who is an interesting character.
Leeds certainly initially played enterprising, attacking football that entertained. Phillips was a crucial part of this.
Kalvin was also respected by Gareth Southgate and a key part of his midfield.
Every team make mistakes with signatures.
City under Pep, have done better than most...
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It's not as if he's "crap" because he wouldn't ever got as far as he has to catch the eye of City. City are the loftiest football club in the world, right now. It takes levels of self assurance to play with pressure that none of us on BM can comprehend or we'd be out there in his place.

I think Phillips has a mental block and is, possibly, suffering from 'Imposters Syndrome'; where he doubts he should be worthy of where he is. Maybe Grealish is suffering a little bit of the same (I thought he's said as much before?).

I find it ridiculous reading the arseholes that tear him down when they're not out there doing his job.
 
Platt Lane 59 said:
I'm sure Pep thought Kalvin could deputise for Rodri, or even play alongside him.
Perhaps Pep was blinded by Bielsa's (relatively) successful style of football with Leeds ?
He has extolled the virtues of Bielsa, who is an interesting character.
Leeds certainly initially played enterprising, attacking football that entertained. Phillips was a crucial part of this.
Kalvin was also respected by Gareth Southgate and a key part of his midfield.
Every team make mistakes with signatures.
City under Pep, have done better than most...
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I've always believe Pep wanted Phillips playing what is now sene as the Stones role and it's obvious if you remember his early pre season games, plus his early substitute appearances too it indicated a want for him to play as a CB/CM hybrid, unfortunately Kalvin wasn't positionally intelligent enough to adapt to Pep's plans for him which has been a disappointment all round.

Hopefully he can move on and still be useful to someone else he's just far from what we hoped for, him not working out here it's not Pep Txiki or Phillips fault mistakes do happen.
 
Kinkladze's crazy skills said:
I've always believe Pep wanted Phillips playing what is now sene as the Stones role and it's obvious if you remember his early pre season games, plus his early substitute appearances too it indicated a want for him to play as a CB/CM hybrid, unfortunately Kalvin wasn't positionally intelligent enough to adapt to Pep's plans for him which has been a disappointment all round.

Hopefully he can move on and still be useful to someone else he's just far from what we hoped for, him not working out here it's not Pep Txiki or Phillips fault mistakes do happen.
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Dont think so the Stones role didnt come into play till about xmas, Pep was rolling with the usual 433 (om paper Kalvin fit that when we bought him).

I think the fact he had to unlearn everything that had been drilled into him and didn't have any game time with the injury as well to get up to speed. He was always behind the curve and never recovered.
 
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