Keir Starmer

[TheBlueDune]

Next leader doesn't matter if a leaver or remainer. The argument in 2024's election won't be about Brexit, apart from "I told you so".
More likely to be environmental agendas by then.
And how NHS is still waiting for 40 new hospitals and 50,000 more nurses and 20,000 new police.

 

[journolud]

Starmer is damaged goods. What about Hillary Benn?

How do you reach your conclusion about Starmer?

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

Voters remember, though.

And if he would ignore and dismissed their opinions once before...

Tbh mate I don't think voters remember much - hence the success of boris

 

[blueinsa]

How do you reach your conclusion about Starmer?

You think a labour voting demographic that has just turned its back on Labour in no small part due to its stance on brexit will entertain its tormentor in chief as new leader?

 

[journolud]

You think a labour voting demographic that has just turned its back on Labour in no small part due to its stance on brexit will entertain its tormentor in chief as new leader?

Contrary to what others say and think I think voters have short memories and in 5 years time Brexit and how MPs voted on it won’t be the issue driving the election.

I hope Brexit doesn’t turn out to be the disaster some fear but if it is and leave voting workings class traditional labour areas are worst hit they may well be saying to themselves that they should have paid more attention to Starmer and his ilk

 

[Shaelumstash]

You think a labour voting demographic that has just turned its back on Labour in no small part due to its stance on brexit will entertain its tormentor in chief as new leader?

Were the 4 general election losses in a row over 10 years all Kier Starmer’s fault?

How about the 3 landslides wins before that? All down to Corbyn and the Labour base, yeah?

 

[urban genie]

David Milliband.

Should have won 10 years ago when Brown got battered for going too far left.

But Len McClusky decided the answer was to go further to the left and appointed Ed. Then he got battered.

So Red Len and the Momentum 1970s Students Union decided the answer was to go FURTHER left and appointed Comrade Corbyn. And then he produced the worst result in 100 years.

Len McClusky and Unite are as much to blame for Brexit and the Bozo landslide as Nigel Ferage is. They just can’t see it and prefer to blame the Daily Mail.

It’s 10 wasted fucking years on an ideological vanity project. It has to stop today.

Get David Milliband back in the country, win a by-election and let’s have a fucking sensible, legitimate left of centre option because I still believe that’s the majority of people in this country sit, they just don’t have an electable option.

If labour had done what McKlusky wanted, labour would have campaign for a brexit deal and no referendum.


4 elections 4 defeats, new labour, this labour it doesn't matter, a clear misunderstanding of the heartlands and tgeir issues the last 3 decades has led to a disconect even a manifesto aimed at reversing the decline couldn't reach them.

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

How do you reach your conclusion about Starmer?

Part of Corbyns failed front bench team and actively campaigned to remain

 

[kaz7]

I like jess but i think she gets too wound up,have to look at it when the dust has settled,this might not just be about the leader

 

[urban genie]

Raynor - should keep the Tories in with an even more increased majority.

Actually tory think tanks said they fear a strong vocal northern leader as they have been able to use the london centric nature of the present leadership as an example why traditional labour should reject them.

As long as it isn't that baked potato headed Richard Burgon, the cunts useless.