Keir Starmer

I know what you are saying, but surely the brexit ship debate has sailed on. Political leaders need to move on from that debate? Benn is an astute politician and he speaks very well. It would clearly be up to him if he wanted to take on the challenge of moving the labour party to the center left of British Politics.
Bt people remember.

Look if no-one wants to listen, fine, but I'd be one of many who wouldn't support Labour if he's the leader, and I feel others feel the same way as he would seek to reverse the decision to leave and promote rejoining.
 
Pick someone likeable and they're halfway there. Then employ an amazing media/tech team (for TV and online), then that's pretty much it.

Doesn't matter if they tell lies and spread disinformation, doesn't matter if they say or do awful things. Just have a team there ready to cover it up.


Unfortunately the above will alienate people like me who just want people to be honest and get behind what they believe. However, that is current politics and that is what wins.
 
Bt people remember.

Look if no-one wants to listen, fine, but I'd be one of many who wouldn't support Labour if he's the leader, and I feel others feel the same way as he would seek to reverse the decision to leave and promote rejoining.
Fair enough, so I take it you wouldn't support any of the current Labour front bench then? Who would you have?
 
Bt people remember.

Look if no-one wants to listen, fine, but I'd be one of many who wouldn't support Labour if he's the leader, and I feel others feel the same way as he would seek to reverse the decision to leave and promote rejoining.

You're in a double bind then, all the cosy Blair lookalikes were/are remainers.

I'll be happy if you can correct me, but can you think of a nice, cosy leaver in the Labour Party?
 
I'm talking immediate campaigning.

Leave voters won't forget this in a hurry. It wasn't just Labour leavers, Labour lost, it was wider, moderate leave voters. You want to get that support back? People like Phillips, Benn, Starmer, Thornberry are NOT the way forward. It's like nothing has been learned!
The Labour vote was down 6% and the Tory vote up 3% in Remain voting seats. The problem wasn’t Brexit, it was Corbyn.
 
The Labour vote was down 6% and the Tory vote up 3% in Remain voting seats. The problem wasn’t Brexit, it was Corbyn.
Never said it was solely down to brexit. Don't know where you got that from.

But people remember the opinions and comments of people like Thornberry, Abbott, Gardner, Starmer, Benn etc. Feel like i've had to make the same comment three times now.
 
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She's certainly not a GILF
 
You're in a double bind then, all the cosy Blair lookalikes were/are remainers.

I'll be happy if you can correct me, but can you think of a nice, cosy leaver in the Labour Party?
No I can't and that is the problem with Labour.

It's completely out of touch with a large portion of it's support.
 

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