Keir Starmer

You are never going to get all you want out of a government but my god the prospect of another 5 years of this Tory hell should make the Left think very hard , the days of Blair and Brown were halcyon days, funded services things were getting better
I honestly can't see much difference with starmer, I'll vote green, I can't vote for a twat like starmer and his stance on the Palestine Israel war just cements this view. Blair was bad enough and this Tory lite fucker will be the same.
 
Is it about 30 out of more than 6400? Probably not a major worry for them unless MPs start resigning (of course the cynic in me my suggest that the Labour leadership wouldn't mind a few MPs resigning).

Do you know which Councils the Tories have taken control of? Assume that involves councillors resigning completely, rather than just leaving Labour? Would be pretty grim if they supported a new Tory administration.
Unless they joined another existing party I'd assume they would form a new political group ("Independent Labour" or something more pertinent, e.g. "anti-genocidal Labour"). Then unless the remaining Labour group wants to enter a formal coalition with someone else, you might expect that most business just goes on as before.

In Oxford, the new independents would have to side with one of the other parties to change much. Labour only needs two non-Labour votes to have a majority (from former Labour, LibDem, or Green). There are no Tory councillors.

Tories could only take over in a council if former Labour councillors voted with the Tories.
 
Unless they joined another existing party I'd assume they would form a new political group ("Independent Labour" or something more pertinent, e.g. "anti-genocidal Labour"). Then unless the remaining Labour group wants to enter a formal coalition with someone else, you might expect that most business just goes on as before.

In Oxford, the new independents would have to side with one of the other parties to change much. Labour only needs two non-Labour votes to have a majority (from former Labour, LibDem, or Green). There are no Tory councillors.

Tories could only take over in a council if former Labour councillors voted with the Tories.
Absolutely - That's what I assumed - and was why I asked the question.

The only other scenario I could think of for a Tory takeover, is if they quit completely - so theoretically the Tories in some very tight boroughs could take over until by-elections take place.
 
Starmer is doing well which obviously sticks in the throat of the hard left and hard right whose concern for human well being is well below their devotion to political ideology.
Lol. Like you give a fuck about human well being..... and by the way you are on the same side as the far right in cheering on this indiscriminate slaughter...... which is all being done in the name of a warped political ideology.
 
Has he got a policy on anything yet. I know Starmer is sitting on the fence re. Palestine
Why does he need any policies yet? The best ones would be stolen by the current government and he’d be hung out to dry on ones that might cost some money.

Saying nothing is winning him the election currently. Until that starts to hinder his campaign, it will stay the same.
 
Genuine question, do you actually want Labour to win an election or would you be content with them being in electoral oblivion and just waving flags from the sidelines?
Genuine answer, I want a government that is left wing built on Democratic Socialist values such as equality, fairness and social justice.

Starmer's unwillingness to call for a ceasefire puts him at odds with people like me and if he thinks the strategy is correct then he really needs to look at what is happening. Support for him in certain sections of society is plummeting and if is as Andrew Marr has pointed out.

Politics in this country is in a horrible state, we have the worst government in living memory but the alternatives only reason to vote for it is it not the worst government in living memory.
 

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